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Wallace & Ladmo’s Pat McMahon – Broadcaster, Actor, Arizona Icon | Cross Examined Ep. 8

00:00:00.240 Welcome back to Cross-examine with the
00:00:02.240 Gerbers. I am Megan Gerber. This is Ken
00:00:04.720 Gerber and the amazing Pat McMahon.
00:00:11.679 >> For 35 years, the characters of the
00:00:14.160 Wallace and Ladmo show lit up live
00:00:17.199 studio audiences and living rooms with
00:00:19.439 television sets across Arizona.
00:00:23.760 Wallace and Ladmo influenced generations
00:00:26.640 of entertainers and filmmakers. I grew
00:00:29.519 up with Wallace and Latin.
00:00:31.199 >> None more notable than a young Steven
00:00:33.840 Spielberg.
00:00:34.800 >> He called the dressing room and they put
00:00:37.520 it through and
00:00:41.120 we heard on the speaker phone. Uh,
00:00:45.120 hey Wallace, this is Stevie Spielberg
00:00:48.879 and I make movies.
00:00:50.239 >> Welcome Pat.
00:00:50.960 >> With a shirt that is the map of Belgium.
00:00:55.039 No, listen. If I had known that it was
00:00:57.120 such a tremendous professional studio
00:01:00.800 here and your home property, I would
00:01:03.600 have shown a little dignity. No, listen.
00:01:06.880 I am so excited about doing this. Uh,
00:01:10.000 but the studio is pretty special.
00:01:12.080 >> Well, thank you. We’re very proud of it.
00:01:13.600 >> And so were you guys in my life, not
00:01:15.680 only because of law work, uh, but also
00:01:19.200 because of the world of music that we
00:01:21.040 all share.
00:01:22.000 >> Yes. Yes. Well, we we can’t thank you so
00:01:24.479 much for being here and it’s the day
00:01:26.640 after your birthday.
00:01:27.920 >> Happy birthday to you.
00:01:30.080 >> Is that cleared, by the way? Is that
00:01:32.159 cleared by the union that you can do
00:01:33.840 that?
00:01:34.479 >> Is it? Did you clear it?
00:01:37.439 >> How does that work? I’m a
00:01:38.799 >> tell you is is if it isn’t, we will all
00:01:41.920 be in court in the morning. Do you have
00:01:43.920 an attorney?
00:01:44.640 >> I don’t. Do you know one?
00:01:47.040 >> Yeah. I uh I know one who has a pet
00:01:50.960 prehistoric monster
00:01:53.280 >> that that is a pet of the family and use
00:01:56.399 on television every once in a
00:01:57.840 >> while. Runs down Camel Back Road.
00:02:00.079 >> Yeah. And I don’t think he’s been paid
00:02:01.680 yet.
00:02:03.920 >> That was a fun commercial to do.
00:02:06.159 >> We We loved having you do that. It was a
00:02:08.318 great commercial.
00:02:09.038 >> Well, what else is going on in your
00:02:10.479 lives besides being able to come over
00:02:12.480 here? I love the way Pat sits down at
00:02:15.760 our podcast and starts interviewing.
00:02:18.080 >> I love it, too.
00:02:19.840 >> After how many years on TV interviewing
00:02:22.160 people, you can’t help it.
00:02:23.200 >> Well, I don’t intend to take over. I I
00:02:25.440 >> No, I don’t mind it. I love it. Pat me
00:02:28.480 and Duffy both.
00:02:29.520 >> It is a habit that my wife Duffy
00:02:33.360 just can’t stand. Well, because
00:02:37.120 >> when we go to dinner, I wind up
00:02:39.280 interviewing the bus boy.
00:02:40.959 >> I love it. And and I do it because I’m
00:02:43.200 really interested. Where are you from?
00:02:44.720 Oh, I listen. I I lived there for a
00:02:47.599 while.
00:02:48.160 >> Is this before or after the dole drink?
00:02:50.319 Them pineapple dole drink. Do you stole?
00:02:53.920 Do you interview them before or after
00:02:55.599 the stoly?
00:02:56.640 >> I I was I was wondering who it was that
00:02:58.879 I was interviewed that I interviewed
00:03:01.440 named Phone Hor.
00:03:04.959 This is Stoley. The stole. You know what
00:03:09.200 they don’t call it? They don’t call it
00:03:11.760 Stolley at the Capitol Grill.
00:03:14.319 >> They don’t.
00:03:15.040 >> No, but it gave me a chance to actually
00:03:17.280 name the restaurant for which they may
00:03:19.599 show me some level of appreciation.
00:03:21.920 >> And they should.
00:03:22.959 >> You should get a free steak or a free
00:03:24.640 stol
00:03:27.840 24th in Camelback. Builtmore Fashion
00:03:29.920 Bark. Oh, that’s two mentions.
00:03:35.280 >> So, you got to talk about this drink
00:03:36.799 that you introduced us to. Well, because
00:03:39.040 that was what I was introduced to a
00:03:41.280 press night a few years ago whenever
00:03:43.280 they uh opened Capitol Grill.
00:03:46.959 We walked in and in the bar there was
00:03:50.000 this see-through tank. And since I do
00:03:54.560 ask people questions uh throughout most
00:03:57.680 of my day, I said to the waiter, "What
00:04:01.519 is with the tank, that transparent
00:04:03.840 tank?" He says, "That’s where we keep
00:04:06.000 the stoly dolies. Would you please
00:04:08.480 explain to me what that is?" And he
00:04:11.519 said, "I will not only explain it, I’ll
00:04:13.200 bring you one because it is or at least
00:04:17.040 was when they had an agreement with the
00:04:20.478 firm that made the vodka. Stoaya vodka
00:04:25.759 with fresh
00:04:28.320 peeled oranges,
00:04:31.199 just big huge quarters of oranges and
00:04:35.680 squeezed." What?
00:04:37.120 >> So, so the whole thing just tastes like
00:04:40.560 an extraordinary kind of orange juice.
00:04:43.199 >> You mean pineapples?
00:04:45.600 >> Did I say orange?
00:04:46.800 >> Yes.
00:04:47.280 >> That’s it. Come this.
00:04:50.240 No. Well, I had
00:04:52.080 >> I thought you were messing with me.
00:04:53.600 >> Well, no. Since then, I’ve had so many
00:04:55.199 stoly dolies that No, that’s right.
00:04:57.600 >> They now have it as a orangey doly.
00:05:00.320 >> And it’s the Doe pineapple organization,
00:05:03.759 right? as opposed to any other kind of
00:05:06.080 citrus.
00:05:07.680 >> We’ve been to the Doe plant in Hawaii.
00:05:10.160 Have you been there? Have you been to
00:05:11.440 Hawaii?
00:05:12.000 >> Yes.
00:05:12.400 >> And did you visit the Doe plant?
00:05:15.039 >> Yes.
00:05:15.520 >> Did you bring your own bottle?
00:05:17.280 >> Train.
00:05:18.160 >> But they didn’t say anything to me as
00:05:21.039 insulting as, "Well, you didn’t say
00:05:24.160 pineapple."
00:05:26.000 You stupid guest for crying out loud.
00:05:28.720 Why did we invite him? No, it’s just my
00:05:32.000 my eyesight is going in. pineapples and
00:05:34.400 oranges begin to look alike.
00:05:37.199 >> I thought you were messing with me. I
00:05:38.720 thought you were trying to catch me
00:05:40.479 where I was going be like, "It’s
00:05:41.680 orange."
00:05:42.400 >> It doesn’t matter because they dropped
00:05:44.880 the agreement with Stolia. So there
00:05:47.520 >> Oh, so now what do they call it?
00:05:49.120 >> I’m so sick of her. I really
00:05:51.039 >> Doy
00:05:53.919 poly rolly. Don’t you remember those
00:05:56.080 little bugs when we you were I don’t
00:05:57.759 know if they still have them. Why do I
00:05:58.720 say when I was little? It was in the
00:05:59.759 Midwest. The roll the
00:06:01.199 >> roly polies. Roly polies
00:06:02.960 >> before my time.
00:06:04.160 >> Oh,
00:06:05.759 >> and if you say there was no time before
00:06:08.400 your time,
00:06:09.360 >> I will not say that.
00:06:11.840 >> Even though I’m thinking it.
00:06:12.960 >> No, I I’m just I am absolutely delighted
00:06:16.960 that as many people I I can tell I mean
00:06:20.639 this this is a story that nobody’s heard
00:06:22.639 yet. So
00:06:23.680 >> So this is an exclusive. Yesterday the
00:06:26.400 morning show on channel 7 um with which
00:06:30.000 you’re very familiar. you are one of the
00:06:32.080 sponsors. Uh they invited me to come
00:06:35.360 down as a guest just because it was my
00:06:38.319 birthday and uh
00:06:41.680 so Brad and Teresa I assumed were just
00:06:45.840 going to be asking me about the kid show
00:06:48.960 that I did for a long time and other
00:06:51.680 things that I did for an equally long
00:06:53.520 time. And um and then we would move on
00:06:56.960 to another guest. One of the other
00:06:59.520 guests, by the way, happened to be a
00:07:02.319 representative of Wildlife World Zoo
00:07:04.960 over here on the west side, one of my
00:07:07.199 favorite places. And it was a brown
00:07:10.800 skunk
00:07:12.400 uh that was named Hershey for obvious
00:07:15.759 reasons.
00:07:16.400 >> Yes. And uh so that’s usually
00:07:21.840 uh the other guest on shows that I
00:07:26.800 pets with glands.
00:07:29.520 And now here’s Pat.
00:07:33.280 But we uh had a terrific time and uh
00:07:38.960 did did the interviews and then Brad
00:07:43.039 said there were some people that wanted
00:07:46.000 to say happy birthday and couldn’t make
00:07:48.960 it down
00:07:50.880 and said take a look at the uh monitor
00:07:55.120 right next to you to this big television
00:07:57.840 monitor next to the chair I was in.
00:08:00.960 And uh up comes Alice Cooper.
00:08:03.759 >> Oh, fun.
00:08:04.560 >> And he’s been a friend since Cortez High
00:08:06.960 School. And where he went, not me. And
00:08:10.400 he uh uh was in costume, did a
00:08:14.560 wonderfully brilliant comedic happy
00:08:16.800 birthday for me. And I was thrilled and
00:08:19.520 I thought, "Wow, that’s great."
00:08:21.120 >> Well, it’s somebody’s birthday. And it’s
00:08:23.919 a man who influenced me uh as much as
00:08:29.280 Ernie Kovac or any of the guys from that
00:08:33.440 era. Pat McMahon, one of the funniest
00:08:36.399 people to ever walk the sands of
00:08:38.640 Phoenix, Arizona. Um um you know, Pat
00:08:42.719 will still be working when he’s a 100
00:08:44.640 because hey, it’s a book. They told me
00:08:47.519 later they did it in Munich, Germany
00:08:50.800 because he’s touring Europe and he took
00:08:54.640 the time out to do this for me.
00:08:57.600 >> Very sweet.
00:08:58.560 >> But then I found out that that wasn’t
00:09:00.160 all because immediately after Alice came
00:09:04.160 Lin Sue, formerly Lin Sue
00:09:06.000 >> Cooney,
00:09:07.360 >> uh the anchor woman,
00:09:08.720 >> right,
00:09:09.440 >> uh now married to the head track coach
00:09:13.200 at Grand Canyon University.
00:09:15.040 >> Oh, very cool. standing uh track team
00:09:18.800 that they have. And then came Mary Joe.
00:09:23.680 And then came Joey Majori, the
00:09:28.000 restaurant tour.
00:09:29.519 >> Hey Pat,
00:09:31.360 I’m in the kitchen. Where are you? Huh?
00:09:34.640 You spend a few bucks and then I don’t
00:09:36.560 see you.
00:09:37.920 >> Then Jerry Kangelo
00:09:40.560 >> and and his was done in Monterey,
00:09:42.880 California. Well, every time I saw one
00:09:46.000 after another after another, I got more
00:09:49.279 touched and more touched, but not quite
00:09:53.440 the same kind of reaction I had for the
00:09:56.320 final guest, and it was Duffy, my wife.
00:10:00.240 >> Had no idea that they sent a crew over
00:10:02.959 to the house. They did it when they knew
00:10:05.680 I was doing the God show in Scottsdale
00:10:09.200 on radio, my podcast, and uh they knew
00:10:13.440 how long that would take, when I would
00:10:16.079 start, when I would be home, and there
00:10:18.640 was no catching the crew. Uh so it was a
00:10:23.040 complete shocking surprise. And there is
00:10:25.680 Duffy uh who isn’t well these days and
00:10:28.959 she took the time out with Rocky our uh
00:10:33.920 poodle mix on her lap and I’ll never
00:10:37.839 forget it. The whole the whole show was
00:10:40.320 sensational.
00:10:41.920 But those moments
00:10:44.800 those people uh really got to me. Mostly
00:10:48.320 the last one.
00:10:49.360 >> I love that. We love Duffy. She’s so
00:10:51.680 amazing.
00:10:52.320 >> Yeah. Yeah. She really is. And uh
00:10:55.519 slowing Duffy down uh with this uh
00:11:00.000 condition that she has uh is uh the uh
00:11:04.640 the thing that most people can’t get
00:11:06.240 used to because just a couple of years
00:11:08.480 ago
00:11:10.160 uh well she said to me one day she was
00:11:14.959 several years ago she had been a u an
00:11:17.839 executive uh assistant in big business
00:11:23.440 And uh
00:11:25.519 so I was walking out to go to the
00:11:27.200 station and she said, "You know what,
00:11:28.959 honey? I’ve always wanted to sculpt."
00:11:32.240 And I said, "Well, isn’t that
00:11:34.880 interesting? I I never knew that you
00:11:36.480 were really terribly interested in
00:11:38.720 actively being involved in art. I’ll get
00:11:41.200 you some clay
00:11:43.120 at the artist supply store on my way
00:11:46.399 home."
00:11:48.000 She said, "No, I mean stone,
00:11:51.120 marble."
00:11:52.880 And I said, "Who starts sculpting
00:11:56.320 >> with
00:11:56.800 >> with stone,
00:11:57.440 >> right? Why start small?"
00:11:59.600 >> She said, "I do."
00:12:02.480 >> And I’ve already picked out a school.
00:12:04.800 It’s in Tuscanyany.
00:12:07.279 >> Go big or go home.
00:12:09.040 >> And I said, "Will I at any time be
00:12:11.279 invited?" Uh, she said, "Yeah, after I
00:12:14.079 finish school, come over and pick me up
00:12:17.760 and we’ll go someplace in Europe and
00:12:19.440 I’ll tell you all about my life." How
00:12:21.360 long was the school?
00:12:22.639 >> Uh, six weeks.
00:12:23.920 >> Oh,
00:12:25.040 >> and uh, at the foot of the mountain that
00:12:28.399 has the white marble that Michelangelo
00:12:31.920 did David with.
00:12:33.040 >> Can I have that phone number, Ken? I
00:12:34.560 think I’m going somewhere for six weeks.
00:12:35.920 >> We have We have several of her pieces
00:12:38.240 still at home. But she became really
00:12:40.480 well known.
00:12:41.360 >> Wow. as a sculptor
00:12:43.839 and galleries, uh, uh, art shows, uh,
00:12:49.200 did 15 years. And then her doctor said,
00:12:53.279 "You can’t do that anymore."
00:12:55.440 >> Because
00:12:57.120 this is almost gone
00:13:00.160 and you won’t be able to lift a cup of
00:13:02.320 coffee. Rotator cuff.
00:13:04.639 >> Sure.
00:13:05.040 >> Because that’s tough.
00:13:06.079 >> Because of the marble work.
00:13:07.440 >> Wow.
00:13:08.079 >> And her reaction to that. And I’m doing
00:13:10.240 this because I want you to know Duffy
00:13:13.120 and how slowing down was not a part of
00:13:16.480 her life. Said, "You will not be able to
00:13:19.279 sculpt anymore after 15 years and great
00:13:21.760 success."
00:13:23.760 And she said, "Well, I have a master’s
00:13:26.560 degree, so I’ll get a doctorate and
00:13:29.200 become a psychologist."
00:13:31.760 Yeah, that’s Duffy.
00:13:33.680 >> Yeah. She just one thing stops her and
00:13:35.440 then she’s going. She’s not stopping.
00:13:37.200 And and I wanted to I wanted to tell
00:13:39.120 people that also because not only am I
00:13:41.519 incredibly proud of her then and now. Uh
00:13:45.600 but u but also I think it’s a wonderful
00:13:49.279 story for people to hear about their
00:13:52.320 lives.
00:13:53.279 >> Absolutely.
00:13:54.240 >> Very inspiring. Yeah. Very inspiring.
00:13:56.320 >> Yeah. You when somebody says you can’t
00:13:58.639 do this anymore, you don’t just have to
00:14:00.800 say but what will I do with my life? In
00:14:04.800 fact, you shouldn’t say that ever
00:14:06.880 because there’s so many choices in life.
00:14:11.040 Yes, there are. Don’t you argue with me.
00:14:14.800 >> And I love that you’re saying that
00:14:15.920 because I was going to ask you being 90,
00:14:18.480 what advice would you give people that
00:14:20.639 are maybe 50 and saying, you know what,
00:14:22.800 my life is over. I’ve lived 50 years. I
00:14:24.880 can’t do anything else to change my
00:14:26.720 life. And that kind of leads into that
00:14:28.880 that covers that.
00:14:30.240 >> The last thing I ever think of is being
00:14:32.720 90. It’s amazing.
00:14:35.040 >> And I uh No, age is one of those things
00:14:38.800 that just simply
00:14:40.959 um
00:14:42.480 I think if you’re in a bar and you’re
00:14:45.600 13,
00:14:47.120 you should probably consider your age.
00:14:51.360 >> Maybe.
00:14:52.480 >> No. Yeah. But I see what you’re saying.
00:14:54.079 Why should that hold you back?
00:14:55.680 >> Never. Right.
00:14:56.480 >> And I’ve never stopped being on the air.
00:14:59.600 >> You know what I wanted to ask you? You
00:15:00.959 mentioned just a minute ago your own
00:15:02.560 podcast, The God Show. How long has that
00:15:05.120 been going?
00:15:06.240 >> 24 years. 24 years. 24 years with the
00:15:11.279 same producer,
00:15:13.199 Rosemary Scaro. I’ve mentioned almost
00:15:15.519 every woman in my life now.
00:15:18.240 Uh Rosemary Scaro. And before that I was
00:15:22.480 at KT
00:15:24.720 um which is a news talk station by the
00:15:27.440 way in case they sell this
00:15:29.600 internationally.
00:15:31.040 >> I think you worked with David Mosquitz.
00:15:32.800 I think he was with KT.
00:15:35.120 >> Yeah. You know David
00:15:35.839 >> Mos but not but yeah but not my
00:15:38.160 producer.
00:15:38.880 >> Oh I see.
00:15:39.760 >> Uh no she was the one who gathered the
00:15:43.040 guests every day.
00:15:44.800 >> Oh okay. Erin, you have a job to gather
00:15:46.959 the guests.
00:15:47.760 >> Included uh several presidents. Uh,
00:15:51.199 Mother Teresa.
00:15:52.880 >> Really? How short was she? Tall?
00:15:54.880 >> Uh,
00:15:55.600 >> was Mother Teresa short or tall?
00:15:58.079 >> Well, everyone is tall to me.
00:16:00.560 >> Kind of like Ken.
00:16:02.560 >> No, no, she No, she’s a tiny woman.
00:16:04.959 >> Okay.
00:16:05.440 >> Um, had the Dollaly Lama on these were
00:16:08.079 God show guests.
00:16:09.600 >> Oo.
00:16:10.320 >> But um,
00:16:12.079 >> but no, we had had on the KT show. uh
00:16:18.240 she’s responsible for getting all the
00:16:21.279 guests and we have meetings about uh
00:16:24.240 who’s going to be on a talk show. Well,
00:16:25.920 that talk shows lasted 33 years. And if
00:16:29.199 you start counting years and say, "Well,
00:16:31.519 wait a minute. The Wallace and Ladmo kid
00:16:33.360 show he was on for 30 years and then on
00:16:37.839 Chris for 10 years. If you start putting
00:16:41.360 them all one end to end, I really
00:16:45.040 shouldn’t be here." Well, but that’s
00:16:47.199 that starts way back before then, too,
00:16:49.920 because you were basically born into
00:16:51.519 show business.
00:16:52.320 >> Yeah. My mom and dad were a vaudeville
00:16:54.000 dance act and uh we uh on the road from
00:16:58.399 the time I was five weeks old and it was
00:17:02.399 an idyllic life. Uh I mean when when my
00:17:07.119 dad and I’m going to get back to
00:17:09.520 Rosemary Scarfo, Rose is probably
00:17:11.919 watching,
00:17:12.640 >> right?
00:17:13.039 >> She’s wait what happened to my career?
00:17:15.520 Huh?
00:17:17.199 When my dad uh found that it was getting
00:17:20.240 a little chilly, we were in Boston or
00:17:22.400 Philadelphia or Chicago because we
00:17:24.640 traveled constantly. I was I think I was
00:17:27.599 11 by the time I’d been in all 50 states
00:17:30.960 and at least two of them were not even
00:17:33.840 states yet. um and uh several countries.
00:17:38.559 Uh very very successful
00:17:41.600 uh live performing act and uh it’s great
00:17:46.480 to sit in the sixth row and see your mom
00:17:48.400 and dad getting applause u in
00:17:52.480 all of these wonderful cities and
00:17:54.559 communities and countries. But uh they
00:17:59.120 uh they
00:18:02.000 took me with them wherever, including
00:18:05.760 wherever my dad
00:18:08.240 would finally decide
00:18:10.880 to spend the winters because at
00:18:13.440 breakfast
00:18:15.039 when it got chilly,
00:18:17.200 he would look at mom and me, I was an
00:18:18.880 only child, and say, "Where do you want
00:18:21.840 to spend the winter?" It’s true. I mean,
00:18:24.320 think of being a kid and you get to
00:18:26.559 vote.
00:18:27.120 >> That’s so cool.
00:18:28.000 >> On on where you’re going to go.
00:18:29.360 >> So, there was never really a home home
00:18:31.039 state.
00:18:31.760 >> No. Oh, no. No. I told your your uh your
00:18:35.919 husband that you allow occasionally on
00:18:38.960 camera.
00:18:40.720 Uh no. I told him before the show that
00:18:45.520 my mother and dad were in a South
00:18:48.000 American tour
00:18:50.080 and uh they they had to leave because
00:18:55.440 my mother’s wardrobe was getting snug
00:18:58.240 and that was me.
00:18:59.840 >> Oh.
00:19:00.799 >> And uh so she said, "Jack, listen. I
00:19:04.480 don’t want him born uh out of the United
00:19:07.360 States just simply because there’s too
00:19:09.760 many potential difficulties. And so we
00:19:13.840 uh we went back to her hometown for the
00:19:16.559 glamour of being born in Levvenworth,
00:19:19.440 Kansas, the prison capital of the United
00:19:23.200 States.
00:19:23.919 >> Oh
00:19:24.400 >> yeah. A military prison, a women’s
00:19:26.080 prison, and a state prison. And I think
00:19:28.559 a federal prison, too. So I get lines
00:19:31.360 thrown at me. Where were you born?
00:19:33.520 Levvenworth, Kansas. Oh, was your mom
00:19:35.760 doing time?
00:19:38.000 Uh, did she give you a number or a name?
00:19:41.280 Uh,
00:19:42.960 and uh, not everyone I know is really
00:19:45.760 good at comedy, but uh, you don’t get
00:19:49.200 you don’t want to hear lines about your
00:19:52.480 prison town where you were born. So, I
00:19:55.840 left at five weeks.
00:19:57.440 >> That was a great decision.
00:19:58.400 >> I took around.
00:20:00.000 >> See, if you say Levvenworth, I think of
00:20:01.600 Washington. Levvenworth, Washington has
00:20:03.679 like this
00:20:04.320 >> Yes. I know. I know. My my uh daughter’s
00:20:07.919 an actress and a director and uh spends
00:20:11.600 a great deal of time in Oregon and so we
00:20:14.240 are in Oregon and Washington quite a
00:20:16.559 bit.
00:20:16.960 >> Oh, it’s beautiful.
00:20:18.160 >> When I found out that there was
00:20:19.440 Levvenworth, Washington, I swore I would
00:20:21.280 never come back
00:20:23.360 to Washington or Kansas. But uh it no
00:20:27.600 it’s uh
00:20:30.080 it’s terrific to be able to have visited
00:20:34.400 so many places and uh and then when I
00:20:36.960 grew up I never stopped traveling and
00:20:39.120 got a chance to see a lot of the world.
00:20:41.200 >> How’d you actually end up in Phoenix?
00:20:44.240 >> That’s an even longer story than I just
00:20:46.480 told. Uh I was Okay, I’ll do the I’ll do
00:20:50.880 the brevity version. I went to college
00:20:54.400 in Iowa
00:20:56.559 because I had gone to high school in
00:20:59.200 Iowa. I just like the middle west. And
00:21:02.559 my parents finally after homeschooling
00:21:05.679 through my entire grade school year
00:21:07.440 said, "You probably ought to find out
00:21:09.760 what a classroom looks like." And so
00:21:12.240 they sent me to a school like Brophie uh
00:21:14.480 in De Moine. Uh, and I boarded there and
00:21:18.720 uh
00:21:20.240 uh went home to wherever it is home was
00:21:22.799 during the summer and uh but I liked
00:21:25.760 Iowa so much I went to college uh in the
00:21:28.159 Quad Cities in Davenport and uh started
00:21:31.280 broadcasting there.
00:21:33.840 got drafted
00:21:36.080 um was in the entertainment part of the
00:21:39.760 military traveling around the country
00:21:42.320 doing shows uh with a uh song and dance
00:21:46.000 group uh promoting uh that division of
00:21:50.080 the army.
00:21:50.799 >> Okay.
00:21:51.760 >> And uh so I’ve really never had to do
00:21:54.799 anything particularly serious and loved
00:21:58.320 every moment of it. But after two years,
00:22:01.280 I was drafted after two years in the
00:22:03.679 military.
00:22:06.080 Uh they allowed me to leave and I said,
00:22:10.080 "Where do I want to shake the khaki
00:22:11.919 off?" "Oh, wait. Springtime in Phoenix,
00:22:15.600 Arizona. That sounds good." And I had
00:22:18.720 been stationed in Colorado
00:22:21.120 where our rehearsal hall was. I mean,
00:22:24.159 there’s soldiers out here saying, "What
00:22:26.799 a schmuck.
00:22:29.600 for crying out loud. Did you ever have
00:22:32.000 to work for a living? Uh yeah, and most
00:22:37.200 of it was a lot of fun, including
00:22:42.080 when I came to Phoenix and uh just fell
00:22:45.039 in love with the city.
00:22:47.200 And uh another story,
00:22:51.520 I rented a place when I first came here
00:22:53.840 cuz it had a pool and that’s how you get
00:22:56.400 rid of the khaki.
00:22:58.480 And it had a television set in the
00:23:01.120 living room and I turned it on the first
00:23:03.280 day that I got here. I swear to God, the
00:23:06.960 first thing I ever saw on television was
00:23:09.840 the Wallace and Glad Mo.
00:23:11.120 >> Is that right?
00:23:11.840 >> Really?
00:23:13.280 >> Boom. Up came these two guys
00:23:16.320 and from the costumes you could see that
00:23:18.240 it was going to be a kid show and I
00:23:19.679 said, "Oh no, not one of those sappy kid
00:23:23.840 shows."
00:23:25.600 Hello, boys and girls. Brush your teeth
00:23:28.480 three times a day.
00:23:31.600 >> You do that really well. Oh, no. I I
00:23:35.360 mean,
00:23:37.120 Captain Kang, a little neat guy, did
00:23:40.480 great things for kids, but not a lot of
00:23:43.760 laughs,
00:23:44.720 >> right?
00:23:45.919 >> And these two guys all of a sudden are
00:23:49.200 doing comedy about the sales department,
00:23:52.720 making them stop doing live spots
00:23:56.159 because they weren’t showing proper
00:23:57.840 respect for the clients, the sponsors of
00:24:00.880 that show. And I’m saying, "Wait a
00:24:03.120 minute. This is good."
00:24:04.400 >> Right. I was just going to say this
00:24:05.440 >> quality comedy. Sure.
00:24:07.200 >> And and they’re they’re satarizing
00:24:09.360 management
00:24:11.120 of of the television station. I said,
00:24:13.760 >> "I got to meet these guys."
00:24:16.799 And that’s how I wound up in Phoenix and
00:24:19.679 at Channel 5
00:24:22.320 in the news department first. But I
00:24:25.039 didn’t spend a lot of time there. I
00:24:26.480 spent time in the studio watching the
00:24:28.320 Wallace and Lando Show. And then one
00:24:30.799 day, Wallace said, "Hey, Pat, I’ve
00:24:32.960 inadvertently written a comedy bit for
00:24:36.559 three guys. You want to help us?"
00:24:39.679 And that was how I started on the show.
00:24:42.240 >> Oh, that’s cool.
00:24:43.919 >> You thought you were going to actually
00:24:45.520 have to talk during this podcast.
00:24:47.279 >> I love this. I love listening to you,
00:24:48.720 Pat. I could sit there and listen to
00:24:49.919 your stories all day long.
00:24:51.679 >> Well,
00:24:52.000 >> because that’s how long you’ve been
00:24:53.200 living.
00:24:54.080 >> But you ask me questions that have
00:24:56.080 stories attached.
00:24:57.200 >> No, I love it. But I need everyone loves
00:24:58.720 to listen to your stories.
00:25:00.000 >> Well, and besides that, I’m Irish.
00:25:01.840 >> I I’m too. Did you know that?
00:25:05.120 >> Wait a minute. Did I see you in Gway one
00:25:09.039 night?
00:25:11.679 >> Where’s that? Is that in Ireland?
00:25:14.799 >> I don’t know my geography.
00:25:17.600 >> I know.
00:25:18.159 >> I’m Irish. Where’s Gway?
00:25:19.840 >> My No, I have an Irish book, Heritage of
00:25:22.480 My Family. And it I should show you
00:25:24.320 before you leave. It actually has all of
00:25:26.159 the It’s handwritten letters from my
00:25:28.720 Irish ancestors in this book signed to
00:25:31.200 my aunt and they talk about how they
00:25:33.440 came over, who came over with who. It’s
00:25:35.919 my dad’s side.
00:25:36.720 >> You know how much cheaper that is than
00:25:38.960 signing up with Ancestry?
00:25:41.200 >> Oh, yes. Everyone should have a book.
00:25:45.039 Ancestry. Yeah. I’ve I’ve I’ve actually
00:25:48.080 connected with a couple people and then
00:25:49.919 I’m like, "Hey, you’re supposed to be in
00:25:51.440 my family." And they’re like, "What do
00:25:53.279 you want from me?" And it’s like, "Okay,
00:25:55.600 sorry. Didn’t mean to connect."
00:25:57.200 >> Have you ever been to Ireland?
00:25:58.720 >> No. We were supposed to go when COVID
00:26:00.640 hit. We were going to do a mansion tour.
00:26:04.320 We were going to take my brother for his
00:26:05.919 50th. Now, you know, he’s just turned
00:26:08.080 55, but they canled it all because of
00:26:11.120 COVID and so they gave us our money
00:26:12.640 back. But this last time we went to
00:26:14.880 Poland and then I wanted to go to
00:26:16.159 Ireland and Skyla said, "I want a beach
00:26:18.159 vacation. Ireland’s not beachy." So, I
00:26:20.960 need to go. Oh, I want
00:26:21.679 >> Who said that?
00:26:22.400 >> Skyla. Our daughter Skyla.
00:26:25.120 >> But but she’s a bright, clever,
00:26:28.559 wellspoken woman. What happened to her?
00:26:30.720 >> I don’t know. She just wanted She needed
00:26:32.400 a beach vacation. She’s a beach girl.
00:26:34.640 She says,
00:26:35.120 >> you know, there are there are waterways
00:26:39.120 completely around island.
00:26:40.640 >> That’s what I told her. She said
00:26:42.480 raining. She said it’s cold and rainy.
00:26:44.880 >> Well, I can’t argue about that, but
00:26:46.799 Right. But we wanted to go.
00:26:49.200 >> Skyler, listen. Excuse me. Do we have a
00:26:51.679 closeup on Pat? Be because to tell you
00:26:54.799 the truth, Skyler, I’m getting fed up
00:26:56.400 with you already.
00:26:58.880 Ireland is called the Emerald Isle.
00:27:01.760 >> Yes.
00:27:02.159 >> Not because not because it’s cold and
00:27:04.960 rainy. It’s a bit damp, but it means
00:27:08.960 unlike some places you may have been,
00:27:12.159 things grow there.
00:27:14.880 I mean, like big plants.
00:27:18.240 And it is one of the most beautiful
00:27:20.240 places you will ever see. And if your
00:27:23.440 parents find this broadcast entertaining
00:27:25.760 enough, they may decide to pay for a
00:27:28.320 trip for me so that I can show them and
00:27:32.000 the family Skyler the beauty and the
00:27:36.480 natural
00:27:38.320 >> wit of the Irish.
00:27:39.760 >> I like it. I like that. That’s a great
00:27:41.200 idea. We can do that. You you’ve got to
00:27:43.679 see it is not because of the fact that
00:27:46.000 it is a part of my ancestry, but when
00:27:49.600 people get back on the plane at Dublin
00:27:52.080 airport, most of the time Dublin, and
00:27:53.919 they’re going up the ramp, they’re
00:27:56.159 planning their next visit.
00:27:57.840 >> Oh, I’m sure. I love my mated name is
00:28:00.399 Burke. So, Megan Burke. Sure. Southside
00:28:02.880 Irish girl and from Chicago. So, that’s
00:28:05.600 >> What side of town is Chicago? Cubs or
00:28:07.440 White Socks?
00:28:08.320 >> It was White Socks.
00:28:10.080 >> Oh, poor baby. Yeah, it was, you know,
00:28:12.240 and I have a funny story about that. I
00:28:14.240 decided I was going to do a youth group
00:28:16.960 at our Catholic church and it was St.
00:28:20.799 Patrick’s Day and they were having a
00:28:23.200 they were having mass that day and
00:28:25.200 Father Cahill said, "Megan, my dad was
00:28:28.480 chief of police at the time. Megan, come
00:28:30.480 up here and please explain to everyone
00:28:33.840 what you would be doing for this youth
00:28:36.000 group at the church." I was 16 at the
00:28:37.919 time. I didn’t know anything about
00:28:39.200 sports. So he calls me up and I go up
00:28:41.360 there to the podium. If I would have
00:28:43.120 said cubs, I would have been booed out
00:28:46.480 and it was 50/50. And Father Cahill
00:28:49.440 said, "So Megan, where would you go?"
00:28:51.440 And I said, "Oh, we could go to the zoo.
00:28:53.679 We could do this. We could do that. And
00:28:55.440 we could go to a baseball game." And he
00:28:57.120 goes, "Here’s the ultimate question."
00:28:58.799 Now, mind you, this church is packed to
00:29:01.120 the limit. There are people all the way
00:29:03.520 outside. And here I am, 16-year-old
00:29:06.320 Megan, standing up there. You could hear
00:29:09.120 a pin drop asking which team and my dad
00:29:13.760 said he was sitting there going please
00:29:15.840 God don’t let her say Cubs and I just
00:29:18.799 sat there for a minute and I’m like
00:29:22.320 whit
00:29:25.360 I would have been in so much trouble if
00:29:27.200 I
00:29:27.600 >> you know you’re in good company because
00:29:29.679 Barack Obama
00:29:31.600 >> long before he was uh in the White House
00:29:34.159 in fact on my talk show he was a guest
00:29:37.360 And I said before
00:29:40.320 this would have been disrespectful
00:29:42.559 before he was elected
00:29:44.000 >> right
00:29:44.399 >> and was running in the first uh
00:29:46.240 campaign. I said okay
00:29:49.120 >> so you’re a Chicago kid. You get a
00:29:51.120 chance to say that if he’s not the
00:29:52.480 president. Yeah.
00:29:53.120 >> So you’re a Chicago kid, right? Cubs or
00:29:55.679 white socks? And I automatically assume
00:29:58.640 if you’re running for public office
00:30:01.679 anywhere in the country,
00:30:03.200 >> you got to dance around that question.
00:30:06.000 >> Well, yeah. When there’s two teams,
00:30:09.600 when there’s two teams in any sport and
00:30:13.440 you’re on a talk show, most of the time
00:30:16.480 the politicians will actually say how
00:30:20.399 fortunate we all are in Chicago to have
00:30:25.840 two outstanding organizations run by two
00:30:29.520 families that are good friends of mine.
00:30:32.640 And we’re just very lucky to have both
00:30:35.840 groups, you know, uh,
00:30:37.600 >> effectively not answering the question
00:30:39.200 at all.
00:30:39.760 >> Don’t offend either of the contributors
00:30:42.240 to your campaign.
00:30:44.799 >> And I said, okay, Cubs or White Socks,
00:30:47.520 Barack. And he said, White Socks always
00:30:51.120 have been.
00:30:53.919 And you know that I admired him from
00:30:56.480 that point because I knew very little
00:30:58.720 about him.
00:31:00.720 and he was not really a particularly
00:31:02.720 well-known political figure uh in in
00:31:06.559 Chicago.
00:31:08.240 And uh I thought, man, anybody in this
00:31:11.760 town because it was live at KT in this
00:31:15.120 town, Cubstown, spring training every
00:31:18.320 year, people from Chicago living here
00:31:22.480 everywhere in the Valley of the Sun. And
00:31:25.760 he says, "White socks." Wow. And so did
00:31:29.840 you. I did. I did. I I will never say my
00:31:33.039 dad would come out of his grave and be
00:31:35.919 like, "Megan, no, it’s White Socks." My
00:31:37.760 dad listened to, you know,
00:31:39.120 >> he was a diehard
00:31:40.399 >> die hard white socks. Yeah. Even though
00:31:42.880 I don’t I only look at the at the
00:31:44.320 outfits.
00:31:45.120 >> Irish Catholic girl. Irish Catholic girl
00:31:47.360 from Chicago.
00:31:48.640 >> Mhm.
00:31:49.840 >> Boy, you got everyone of the qualities
00:31:54.000 that you just automatically associate
00:31:56.799 with the parish down the street.
00:31:58.640 >> Yeah.
00:32:01.279 I we were southside Irish, you know. I
00:32:03.760 my my my grandfather was a plumber
00:32:07.519 and an alcoholic.
00:32:12.159 >> Well, you’ve done an awful lot of things
00:32:14.480 as Pat switches that subject.
00:32:16.960 >> I know. That’s wonderful.
00:32:18.159 >> Well, no, cuz I want to know.
00:32:19.600 >> Okay.
00:32:19.919 >> I’m ignoring him totally.
00:32:21.279 >> Good. Ignore him. Uh
00:32:22.799 >> we don’t need any more Kenneth B.
00:32:24.159 >> What is the What is the first paying job
00:32:27.600 that you had? And I don’t mean high
00:32:30.240 school job. I don’t mean babysitting.
00:32:32.080 Employment.
00:32:32.720 >> I was in the Navy.
00:32:35.519 >> Well, now I’m really glad that I asked.
00:32:39.360 I kind of remember I us talking about
00:32:40.960 that. At one time, tell me where you
00:32:42.960 were stationed.
00:32:43.679 >> San Diego. I was I was Well, that’s a
00:32:46.799 funny story. I didn’t I thought that I
00:32:49.279 was going on the Love Boat. Just think
00:32:51.360 of um you know what’s that one movie?
00:32:54.960 >> Private Benjamin.
00:32:55.919 >> Yeah. Glamour
00:32:57.360 >> of the Navy. Uh-huh. I picked the Navy
00:32:59.440 because it I liked water skiing, so I
00:33:01.519 figured water skiing, navy. I liked
00:33:04.480 their white outfits. And so when I when
00:33:08.240 I finally got stationed on a sh and by
00:33:10.480 the way, I got number one in my class
00:33:14.159 in a school and they said, "If you got
00:33:16.960 to pick, you get to pick if you get
00:33:18.480 number one." And there was Hawaii being
00:33:20.880 on land. Number two was a ship. I had to
00:33:25.760 give it to a guy. They said only guys
00:33:27.279 get to pick first. This was in 1992 and
00:33:30.000 I was number one in the class though.
00:33:32.399 But anyways,
00:33:33.279 >> she thought she was going on a
00:33:34.880 multi-year cruise.
00:33:36.320 >> I decided I had to show up the week
00:33:39.039 between Christmas and New Year’s and I
00:33:43.120 packed everything that I ever owned in
00:33:45.519 like 14 bags. I didn’t know you just get
00:33:47.919 like this little bunk. I had no idea.
00:33:50.640 And then I decided to wear a dress with
00:33:53.360 heels to go to the ship. And so I get to
00:33:57.760 San Diego at about 10:00 a.m. and this
00:34:00.799 guy, I’m 19 years old. And the guy said,
00:34:03.039 "Okay, we’re going to take you to your
00:34:04.320 ship now." And he starts driving me. I’m
00:34:07.200 thinking he’s going in the wrong
00:34:08.800 direction because clearly I’m on a white
00:34:11.679 loveboat type of ship. I I I got number
00:34:14.480 one in my school. I don’t know how I
00:34:16.000 didn’t notice the ships were gray. So,
00:34:18.159 we get into the dock and I started
00:34:21.119 crying cuz it was so scary looking. And
00:34:24.159 I said, "I’m not getting off your bus,
00:34:25.839 man." So, he kept me on the bus till
00:34:27.918 10:00 at night. And he said, "I’m sorry,
00:34:30.639 you have to get off the bus." And so, I
00:34:33.760 get off the bus and I’ve got my dress
00:34:36.079 on. They’re laughing at the the gate
00:34:40.000 because they said, "Girl, where are you
00:34:41.599 going to put all this luggage?" And I
00:34:43.280 said, "Well, it’s all my stuff." And
00:34:44.639 they’re like, "You’re going to have to
00:34:45.760 ship it back." And so they’re laughing
00:34:48.639 because I had on heels and I had like
00:34:51.520 all of my luggage. And so they had to
00:34:54.079 put me in the medical unit to sleep
00:34:57.440 because they couldn’t fit my luggage
00:34:59.280 anywhere else. So they kept me there for
00:35:01.359 a week trying to figure out how to get
00:35:02.880 my luggage out of there.
00:35:04.160 >> The only mistake you didn’t make is you
00:35:07.040 didn’t marry Popeye.
00:35:09.040 >> I should have.
00:35:10.320 >> No, I mean there you the movie There’s
00:35:14.079 no crying in baseball. Yes, there’s no
00:35:16.320 crying in the Navy.
00:35:17.520 >> I know.
00:35:18.960 >> And so that’s what I did. It was crazy.
00:35:22.079 And then I there’s another whole old
00:35:24.079 story where I got in the guy’s el invite
00:35:26.079 me back to hear all the rest of the
00:35:27.359 story.
00:35:27.839 >> Yes, I will invite you back. We
00:35:30.000 >> and and and what about you, Ken? What
00:35:32.240 about
00:35:32.640 >> Where were you during this time?
00:35:33.839 >> Where did you serve in the military? I
00:35:35.440 >> I did not serve in the military.
00:35:37.119 >> What? What?
00:35:38.000 >> I know. I know. Odd man out. Well, you
00:35:41.200 know, there is a there is a law division
00:35:44.400 in the military.
00:35:45.440 >> I actually had friends that went from
00:35:47.680 law school to the JAG corps. I did not
00:35:50.320 choose to.
00:35:50.880 >> My godfather, he he was a judge in the
00:35:53.599 Marines. Sorry, I brought it back to me.
00:35:56.160 >> And if you’ll recall, I did two years of
00:35:58.960 singing and dancing and comedy.
00:36:04.560 >> Don’t ask Ken to sing. He’s awful.
00:36:07.200 He sounds like a dead cat or a cat that
00:36:09.680 is about dead cats.
00:36:11.200 >> Do what?
00:36:12.000 >> Ken can’t sing.
00:36:13.359 >> That’s a true statement. I should not
00:36:15.119 ever sing.
00:36:15.839 >> Like legit, we tried to do uh karaoke.
00:36:19.440 You better shape up.
00:36:21.359 >> Yes.
00:36:22.079 >> He my brother is like his biggest fan
00:36:25.040 and he’s like, "No, Ken, you can sing."
00:36:26.880 And so he went up there to do karaoke,
00:36:28.720 the boy part. And Bill goes, "Literally,
00:36:31.680 Ken should keep his day job. He sounds
00:36:34.000 like a dying cat." Are you are you aware
00:36:36.640 in law books it’s very very clear
00:36:40.800 lawyers don’t have to be singers?
00:36:43.359 >> No they do. They have to sing their
00:36:45.520 clients a lullabi.
00:36:46.960 >> When did a judge ever say, "Excuse me,
00:36:49.839 please on behalf of your client. Give me
00:36:52.720 a little Alice Bluebound."
00:36:55.920 >> We just made that a law. I am the judge
00:36:58.079 and I would like some singing. You’ll
00:37:00.800 hear it today when we sing you happy
00:37:02.240 birthday. All I can all I can tell you
00:37:03.920 is is I rudely am looking at my watch
00:37:06.560 because the agreement we had I don’t
00:37:09.520 know whether she told you or not. The
00:37:11.520 agreement we had is after 45 minutes I
00:37:15.280 get paid.
00:37:16.079 >> It’s it’s really been that long already.
00:37:19.440 >> Oh
00:37:19.920 >> well listen fast.
00:37:22.240 >> That’s good.
00:37:22.880 >> That felt like two minutes to
00:37:24.240 >> I don’t I don’t want her watching this
00:37:25.680 saying I’m going to drift off after the
00:37:27.440 first four minutes. I would like to know
00:37:30.079 where you went to law school because and
00:37:31.680 I’m not doing this to switch from the
00:37:33.839 military uh because I want you to know
00:37:36.240 while I was in the service
00:37:38.880 well I’m going to get to you in a moment
00:37:40.720 don’t worry while I was in the service
00:37:44.000 I’m kidding about being an entertainer
00:37:45.520 the whole time that I was in except
00:37:47.119 basic training but while I was in the
00:37:50.480 service they checked I was in the army
00:37:52.720 and the air force at no time that I was
00:37:55.839 in either one of those armed forces
00:37:58.640 horses. Did a hun ever enter our
00:38:03.200 country?
00:38:05.280 >> A hun? What’s a hun?
00:38:06.880 >> Well,
00:38:08.720 what’s a hun?
00:38:10.079 >> The hun.
00:38:10.720 >> Oh,
00:38:11.040 >> the huns. That the marauders throughout.
00:38:14.160 >> Oh, wait a minute. You’re German, right,
00:38:15.760 Gerber?
00:38:17.839 >> Yeah, the Huns.
00:38:21.040 Anyway,
00:38:22.560 Hi, Pat. I’m K.
00:38:25.200 about you.
00:38:27.359 >> All I can tell you is thanks for having
00:38:29.280 me.
00:38:30.640 >> When when in the evening and things get
00:38:33.200 chummy and you say to your wife, "Hun,"
00:38:39.920 she says, "Do don’t you do those German
00:38:42.560 things on me. Where did you go to law
00:38:45.200 school? I really am interested."
00:38:46.640 >> I went to law school in Florida. It was
00:38:48.400 a small private college called Stson
00:38:50.800 College of Law.
00:38:51.680 >> I happen to know St. remember where I
00:38:54.320 lived every place?
00:38:56.160 >> Yes.
00:38:56.800 >> And Stson actually had at one time a
00:38:59.839 pretty good basketball team. They went
00:39:02.000 to the national tournament at one time.
00:39:03.920 >> I don’t think that. I didn’t know that.
00:39:05.920 >> I didn’t know that.
00:39:07.359 >> I know my my college uh Tlane in New
00:39:10.400 Orleans. I know they went pretty far
00:39:11.920 when I was there in basketball.
00:39:13.839 >> All Loyola schools.
00:39:15.359 >> Yeah.
00:39:15.760 >> Because they’re Catholic schools.
00:39:19.200 >> And God’s a basketball fan.
00:39:21.680 >> Oh, I see. Yes.
00:39:24.480 >> The next time that you invite me on, and
00:39:28.480 I know you will. Oh, yes. And we will.
00:39:30.800 >> Because you don’t have to study a lot
00:39:32.480 before I show up.
00:39:35.599 I try to keep it simple.
00:39:37.040 >> I also don’t have to talk a lot when
00:39:38.480 you’re here either. No, ne next time.
00:39:41.839 Let me let me host.
00:39:44.640 >> Okay.
00:39:45.200 >> And let me ask the question. Then
00:39:47.760 question. Boom. That’s it.
00:39:49.520 >> Okay. And you get to both answer as long
00:39:52.800 Well, he gets to answer.
00:39:55.760 >> Hey,
00:39:57.920 >> I love I love the Navy story cuz I’m
00:40:01.040 going to go home tonight and and I’m
00:40:03.119 going to be thinking of you with the
00:40:05.440 bags and the heels.
00:40:07.680 >> You know what that Listen,
00:40:10.400 if you know any script writers,
00:40:13.520 that’s a very, very funny
00:40:16.800 situation comedy. I don’t mean TV, but
00:40:19.200 it’s a feature thing. You really ought
00:40:21.680 to think about it. The the woman,
00:40:25.119 Catholic,
00:40:26.720 Chicago kid background and wants to go
00:40:31.520 in the Navy for this reason because it’s
00:40:34.240 so glamorous. And she knows it’s going
00:40:36.800 to be glamorous because she has all
00:40:38.800 these clothes. That’s a funny scene.
00:40:41.839 >> Ready to go on the love boat.
00:40:44.960 See, and and going to law school just
00:40:47.200 simply doesn’t have a lot of laughs. I’m
00:40:49.280 terribly sorry.
00:40:50.880 >> No, I’m none.
00:40:52.480 >> It’s boring. You know, when I met Ken, I
00:40:55.200 didn’t know he was a lawyer. And on the
00:40:56.319 fourth call, I made a lawyer joke and he
00:40:58.480 goes, "Did you not read my profile?" Cuz
00:41:00.400 we met
00:41:02.800 >> He’s the funniest lawyer I know.
00:41:05.200 >> Yes. Funniest looking.
00:41:06.880 >> And you were
00:41:09.760 Oh, really? Now, wait, hold on just a
00:41:11.920 second. That was a slur that we have
00:41:14.240 recorded on camera, right?
00:41:16.240 >> That could play in a courtroom very
00:41:18.480 easily.
00:41:19.119 >> Roll back the transcript, please.
00:41:20.640 >> Okay. You and I must talk.
00:41:22.400 >> Roll call.
00:41:23.599 >> Thank you for inviting me. Thank you.
00:41:25.440 This has been a delight.
00:41:27.040 >> And it’s been the freest show I think
00:41:31.359 I’ve ever done in my life. And I don’t
00:41:33.760 mean by way of
00:41:38.160 freedom.
00:41:39.200 >> It was free flowing, that’s for sure.
00:41:40.720 >> I know. This is a lovely
00:41:42.880 >> and we didn’t pay you anything.
00:41:45.200 >> No, this this has been terrific and I do
00:41:48.000 have more stories should you invite me
00:41:49.680 back.
00:41:49.920 >> We are definitely having you back and
00:41:52.160 thank you so much for being here and
00:41:54.400 thank you everyone for being a part of
00:41:56.560 Crossexam with the Gerbers. Don’t forget
00:41:58.560 we’re also a law firm that handles
00:42:00.240 injury cases. So if anybody needs any
00:42:02.000 help with an injury, find us on
00:42:03.440 gerberjuryaw.com.
00:42:04.960 Hey, I slipped on the way in.
00:42:07.839 We can help you.
00:42:12.720 My hand is you again.
00:42:17.440 This is the end.
00:42:20.480 You had your fun and I was done.
00:42:25.200 I can’t hold you again.
00:42:29.920 This is the end.
00:42:32.960 You had your fun and now you’re done.