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SNAP Benefits Paused, Secret Underground Homes,& Faith over Fear in a Broken System | Cross Examined

00:00:00.080 Welcome to Cross-examine with the
00:00:01.520 Gerbers. I’m Ken Gerber. This is Megan
00:00:03.439 Gerber.
00:00:04.319 >> Hi.
00:00:04.960 >> So, what have you been up to lately,
00:00:06.080 Megan?
00:00:06.400 >> H It’s been a crazy week. [laughter]
00:00:09.599 >> We’ve had to take some right turns and
00:00:11.360 make some decisions that, you know,
00:00:13.200 isn’t always fun as being business
00:00:14.719 owners. You feel like you probably get
00:00:17.440 to a point where you don’t have to grow
00:00:20.720 anymore. But I don’t think that ever
00:00:22.800 happens, does it? Well, it’s like that
00:00:24.240 there’s always some level of stress
00:00:27.199 owning a business and then you’re
00:00:30.080 constantly making decisions on a daily
00:00:32.719 basis, but every now and then a bigger
00:00:35.280 issue comes up and it’s really a tough
00:00:37.520 decision and you are actually struggling
00:00:39.120 a little bit with the aftermath from
00:00:40.879 it’s like you’re great with making the
00:00:42.879 decisions spoton. You just hit it
00:00:45.600 headon. You know exactly what to do. We
00:00:47.920 are so resolute in making those
00:00:50.480 decisions, but realistically it takes an
00:00:53.440 emotional toll.
00:00:54.399 >> Well, even as Christians, we can pray
00:00:56.160 about it. We know that God has got our
00:00:59.600 back and he does all things for good,
00:01:02.399 even if they hurt at the moment. But
00:01:05.438 your body, my body, the older I get, I
00:01:09.119 literally feel the stress from making
00:01:12.880 those decisions more and more and more.
00:01:14.400 And I don’t know if it’s that I’m
00:01:15.840 getting older or it’s hormonal, but I
00:01:18.560 definitely
00:01:20.240 end up feeling stressed out where I have
00:01:24.240 to just really make myself sit there.
00:01:27.680 >> You don’t really get stressed out. You
00:01:29.600 don’t have that.
00:01:30.320 >> I don’t know. I’d probably just hide it.
00:01:32.159 >> Well,
00:01:34.000 they teach you that in law school. In
00:01:35.600 law school, you you’re always try taught
00:01:38.400 to be the best in the room. You you
00:01:40.799 can’t falter. You can’t show any
00:01:43.119 weakness. And so it’s just so ingrained
00:01:45.439 and so I probably even just hiding it.
00:01:47.119 But yeah, I’ll feel stress.
00:01:48.640 >> Well, you do a good a great job.
00:01:51.351 [laughter]
00:01:53.439 >> Isn’t there something with the the
00:01:55.040 tiger? Who What’s that cereal?
00:01:56.960 >> Tony the Tiger.
00:01:57.920 >> Tony the Tiger. Wait,
00:01:58.960 >> Frosted Flakes.
00:01:59.759 >> Yes. What is it?
00:02:00.560 >> You’re great. [laughter]
00:02:02.719 >> You’re great.
00:02:04.880 >> Well, the country’s been feeling stress.
00:02:07.119 I mean, I heard there’s a lot of people
00:02:08.800 that were stuck at the airports.
00:02:10.479 >> Yeah. With the shutdown.
00:02:11.680 >> Yep. And people were talking about the
00:02:14.800 SNAP benefits. I always thought there
00:02:17.040 were food stamps. Is there a difference
00:02:18.560 between SNAP and food stamps?
00:02:20.400 >> I I don’t know. I can’t answer that for
00:02:22.000 you. You’re going to show my ignorance
00:02:23.760 of of that subject. Actually, I I I
00:02:26.480 don’t know what the term is, but I think
00:02:27.920 it’s it’s all
00:02:28.720 >> they just get bent money per month.
00:02:31.120 >> Yeah.
00:02:31.599 >> Well, you know, I’m the type of person,
00:02:33.519 and we’ve talked about this before. You
00:02:36.080 Everybody
00:02:37.920 might have a season in their life where
00:02:39.360 they need help. I think the issue is
00:02:41.920 when people
00:02:43.760 become dependent on something. Our
00:02:46.640 producer was talking about, you know, we
00:02:48.160 saw a video where they said, "Don’t feed
00:02:49.920 the animals." You know, just kind of
00:02:51.840 making a joke, which we’re not making
00:02:53.599 light of people that need help because
00:02:56.080 obviously if you feed the animals, they
00:02:57.599 become dependent, right,
00:02:59.200 >> on you and we’re not saying people are
00:03:01.120 animals. I was actually on benefits
00:03:03.519 between my divorce of Jack’s dad and
00:03:06.159 you, right?
00:03:06.879 >> I needed help. Yeah. And we’re not
00:03:08.640 saying that people don’t need help, but
00:03:11.040 at the same time, I personally know a
00:03:15.040 lot of people, maybe 10 to 15 that could
00:03:19.760 be working, but they
00:03:23.360 just don’t or they feel like they’re
00:03:25.760 already on it. They don’t want to lose
00:03:27.040 the benefits and they want to risk
00:03:29.599 working because you have to make a very
00:03:31.040 low amount. I think this was back in
00:03:33.599 2008.
00:03:35.519 I don’t think I could make over like
00:03:37.280 $800 a month total,
00:03:39.200 >> right?
00:03:39.599 >> I mean, that doesn’t even pay a
00:03:40.720 mortgage. That pays nothing.
00:03:42.400 >> Well, see, here’s the thing. Anybody
00:03:44.799 anybody can get caught up at, like you
00:03:47.599 said, certain seasons in life where
00:03:49.920 they’re down and out. It can happen to
00:03:52.159 anybody at any moment. And those
00:03:55.599 benefits
00:03:57.120 are important because they can help
00:03:59.599 people bridge that gap when they’re
00:04:02.319 they’re down and out. But they really
00:04:04.239 should be more of a temporary thing. It
00:04:06.000 should not be a permanent thing.
00:04:08.080 >> Well, can you imagine if people that
00:04:09.680 were in car accidents lived off of their
00:04:11.840 insurance all the time? How expensive
00:04:14.400 would insurance be for everybody else?
00:04:16.320 You get in one car accident and then
00:04:18.560 that insurance company is required to
00:04:20.399 pay for you to live forever
00:04:23.120 >> and it depends on the injury. Now,
00:04:25.360 obviously,
00:04:26.960 >> people will say, "Well, I have more
00:04:28.240 kids. I can’t work." Are they really
00:04:30.800 scrutinizing people and going and
00:04:32.720 saying, "Can you work?" And who is it
00:04:34.400 costing?
00:04:35.280 >> Right.
00:04:35.680 >> Who ends up paying the bill at the end
00:04:37.040 of the day?
00:04:38.400 >> Yeah. No, everybody does.
00:04:42.160 >> Especially you, Kenneth Paul, because
00:04:44.240 your daughter has a shopping issue and
00:04:46.560 then that goes back into [laughter] the
00:04:48.240 that goes back into the country, right?
00:04:50.560 >> Yeah. She’s supporting the economy. For
00:04:52.639 sure. [laughter]
00:04:54.098 [gasps]
00:04:54.479 >> For sure. She has a uh a um Instacart
00:04:59.440 issue.
00:05:00.240 >> Yeah. Well, but the other thing with
00:05:02.720 this shutdown is there are a lot of
00:05:04.240 people who work that are federally
00:05:07.199 employed and and they’re not getting
00:05:09.520 income right now and that’s hurting them
00:05:11.199 a lot and they really do need to bring
00:05:12.960 that to an end. Well, something I read
00:05:14.479 and I don’t know if it’s true or not.
00:05:16.080 Trump had said if you continued to work
00:05:19.039 while the shutdown for the for the um
00:05:22.320 FAA or the what do they call those
00:05:25.520 people?
00:05:25.840 >> Yeah, the air traffic controllers.
00:05:27.520 >> Was it them or was it the people that
00:05:29.440 make you take your shoes off? A TSA? I
00:05:32.080 don’t know. Somebody was going to get a
00:05:33.520 10,000.
00:05:34.160 >> Make you take your [laughter] shoes off.
00:05:37.759 >> They make you take those dang shoes off.
00:05:39.680 >> That’s actually what it says on their
00:05:41.120 their badge that [laughter] they wear.
00:05:43.120 take off your shoes even if your feet
00:05:45.360 are stinky. [laughter]
00:05:47.759 It’s the worst part of the airport, I’m
00:05:49.520 telling you, is taking your shoes off.
00:05:52.080 >> But um anyways, from what I heard, Trump
00:05:56.479 supposedly said he wanted to give people
00:05:58.240 a bonus of $10,000 if they continued to
00:06:02.000 work during it because they’re going to
00:06:04.160 get paid. It’s just delayed, right? And
00:06:06.639 then he wanted to kind of give them a
00:06:09.440 bonus to say, "Hey, thank you for
00:06:11.360 continuing to work while we were trying
00:06:13.440 to figure things out." And you know,
00:06:14.880 bottom line, if you’re conservative,
00:06:16.880 you’re going to blame the Democrats. And
00:06:18.240 the Democrats, it’s it’s a just a big
00:06:20.560 mess.
00:06:21.039 >> It is.
00:06:21.759 >> And
00:06:24.639 everybody wants what they want on both
00:06:26.720 sides. I’m a conservative, but I’m not
00:06:29.759 saying that the conservative side is
00:06:31.360 perfect.
00:06:32.160 >> No.
00:06:32.720 >> Okay. Because
00:06:33.840 >> No. No, and that’s I appreciate that
00:06:35.280 about you that you’re able to step back
00:06:38.479 and and scrutinize,
00:06:40.880 you know, conservatives, your own party.
00:06:43.120 You know, you scrutinize everybody if
00:06:45.199 they’re not doing something right. I
00:06:46.400 appreciate that.
00:06:46.880 >> The only person I don’t scrutinize is
00:06:48.720 Jesus.
00:06:49.360 >> There you go.
00:06:50.000 >> It’s true. [laughter]
00:06:51.120 >> Why would you?
00:06:51.759 >> He’s the only perfect person that walked
00:06:53.280 on this earth. So, everybody else is
00:06:57.680 >> can be not per I almost said
00:06:59.680 infalluable, but then I was
00:07:01.599 >> probably not aware
00:07:02.319 >> fallible. Infallible.
00:07:03.919 >> Infallible. See, it’s always
00:07:06.319 permenopause. [laughter] But, um, yeah.
00:07:10.400 So,
00:07:12.720 I’ve been hearing some other things
00:07:14.160 about the whole Charlie Kirk thing. I
00:07:16.080 guess Candace has the number one
00:07:18.240 podcast. Is it in the country or the
00:07:20.800 world? I don’t I don’t remember.
00:07:22.960 >> But she came like number one.
00:07:24.560 >> She’s probably if she’s number one in
00:07:26.400 the country, she’s probably number one
00:07:27.520 in the world.
00:07:27.919 >> And you know why? Because what were we
00:07:29.919 talking about? Everybody is wanting that
00:07:34.400 spice in their life. They want to listen
00:07:37.039 to other people’s opinions about what’s
00:07:39.759 happening in the world.
00:07:40.800 >> Yeah.
00:07:41.120 >> And she definitely has an opinion.
00:07:43.280 >> She does a great job with it. Honestly,
00:07:44.960 I I I like that. I like that she’s
00:07:47.680 really just grabbed hold of that subject
00:07:50.319 and she’s not letting go and uh you know
00:07:53.280 there are a lot of discrepancies with it
00:07:55.919 and it’s making everybody question
00:07:58.080 what’s going on and she’s just creating
00:07:59.759 a voice for that.
00:08:01.360 >> Well, I loved what our guy that we
00:08:04.319 talked to said. He said, "You take out
00:08:05.919 what doesn’t make sense,
00:08:07.120 >> right?
00:08:08.080 >> And you’re left with what makes sense,
00:08:11.120 >> right? And we already talked about that
00:08:13.599 on another podcast. And it’s not a shock
00:08:17.680 that the government would lie to us.
00:08:20.800 >> No,
00:08:21.440 >> I mean, the FBI was kind of put together
00:08:24.160 to protect the government. So,
00:08:25.840 >> Right.
00:08:27.199 >> Well, and that’s one of the things that
00:08:28.560 that we were talking about this past
00:08:31.280 week is, you know, and it kind of goes
00:08:34.080 into the whole thing with the the
00:08:35.599 financial shutdown and how it really
00:08:38.559 comes down to both parties. It’s been
00:08:40.240 years and years of mismanagement and
00:08:43.200 overspending and and disagreement and
00:08:46.959 there’s so much that we have come to
00:08:50.560 expect to distrust about the government
00:08:53.600 and there’s so many times I mean how
00:08:55.680 many in recent history have we heard of
00:08:59.120 you know the the country is going to end
00:09:01.120 the world’s coming to an end the economy
00:09:02.880 is going to fail all these different
00:09:04.720 things just again and again and again
00:09:06.720 aliens are coming I mean it’s just It’s
00:09:09.839 constant the number of apocalyptic
00:09:13.200 thoughts and pressures that people are
00:09:15.680 putting on us.
00:09:16.480 >> I think it was about a year ago we threw
00:09:18.959 out stuff. Remember during CO they’re
00:09:21.200 like the country is going under. You
00:09:23.600 have to like stockpile all these things.
00:09:26.399 I think I had like 80 potato no potato.
00:09:30.640 Peanut butter jars, right?
00:09:32.160 >> Potato jars.
00:09:33.120 >> Yeah. [laughter]
00:09:36.720 >> Potato cans. [laughter] I had a bunch of
00:09:39.600 stuff. We we spent way too much. We
00:09:43.120 weren’t the toilet paper hoarders.
00:09:45.440 >> No, but we were we were stockpiling
00:09:48.240 resources for when the the the economy
00:09:51.519 collapses and there’s no food in the
00:09:53.839 grocery store and there’s no money to
00:09:55.680 spend because the the financial system
00:09:58.560 has has bottomed out.
00:10:00.160 >> Do you remember that one movie? What is
00:10:01.680 it called? It’s with
00:10:04.880 um I don’t know. It’s a cute guy. Not as
00:10:08.320 cute as you, but it’s a cute guy. He’s
00:10:10.880 blonde. It’s where they were in that
00:10:12.640 basement. They lived in the basement
00:10:14.320 because they thought there was like
00:10:15.680 >> the quiet place.
00:10:17.760 >> No.
00:10:18.560 >> Oh.
00:10:19.040 >> Oh, no. It’s It’s like the 1950s and
00:10:22.480 they go down into this basement and
00:10:24.160 they’re living in the basement. George,
00:10:26.079 his name is George. Maybe he plays
00:10:28.320 George of the Jungle.
00:10:30.399 That actor.
00:10:32.000 >> Brendan Frasier.
00:10:33.200 >> Yes. Brendan Frasier’s in the movie. and
00:10:36.800 his parents. He eventually escapes and
00:10:40.640 says, "Oh, there’s a whole world up
00:10:42.160 there." And his dad is like, he plays a
00:10:45.360 bad guy a lot.
00:10:47.839 >> I don’t remember the movie. I don’t know
00:10:49.120 if I’ve seen it, but I think I know what
00:10:50.480 you’re
00:10:51.440 >> Yes.
00:10:51.839 >> Glass from the past.
00:10:52.800 >> Glass from the past.
00:10:54.959 >> I’ve, you know, we’ve talked about that
00:10:56.720 like, you know, do we need a basement?
00:10:59.920 But then I don’t think I’d want to live
00:11:02.000 if there was like an like a huge nuclear
00:11:07.120 All the radioactive fallout. Yeah.
00:11:09.200 >> Yeah.
00:11:09.920 >> And you just stuck underground not
00:11:11.519 knowing if if your family is the only
00:11:13.519 one that survived in the whole earth.
00:11:15.360 >> I don’t think I don’t think you could
00:11:17.040 handle me 24/7 in a underground thing.
00:11:19.680 >> I don’t know. I’d be willing to try.
00:11:22.517 [laughter]
00:11:24.482 [gasps]
00:11:25.120 >> But they do have, you know, going back
00:11:27.600 to even JT’s video that we had last
00:11:29.760 time, they talk about all of those. I
00:11:31.839 don’t know if he talked about it, but
00:11:33.440 have you seen the conspiracies where
00:11:36.079 these vans drive into like um mountains
00:11:41.519 and there’s like all this underground
00:11:44.480 cities and stuff like that?
00:11:47.040 >> Yeah. I mean, there’s talk of the
00:11:48.399 underground cities of of tunnels
00:11:50.720 underground throughout the the country
00:11:52.720 and the world. There’s there’s a lot of
00:11:54.240 talk about that.
00:11:54.959 >> I just saw this thing that in Vegas
00:11:57.600 people live underground. Did you know
00:11:59.200 that?
00:11:59.760 >> No. all throughout Vegas underneath in
00:12:02.640 the water system, whatever they call it.
00:12:06.480 Is there um what is underneath the
00:12:09.279 water? What is underneath the street?
00:12:10.639 Those
00:12:11.200 >> the sewer system.
00:12:12.160 >> The sewer system. Well, it can’t be
00:12:14.160 sewers. They call it something. There’s
00:12:16.480 lights under there. And there’s homeless
00:12:18.959 people in Vegas that lost their money or
00:12:22.079 like had to stay in I don’t know. Maybe
00:12:23.920 they’re running from the mafia. I don’t
00:12:25.519 know. But they’re underground living.
00:12:27.680 People should look that up. Interesting.
00:12:30.560 >> They could just stay there if there’s a
00:12:31.760 bomb,
00:12:32.639 >> right?
00:12:33.040 >> But anyways, we’re talking about
00:12:34.000 conspiracy theories and we were talking
00:12:35.760 about how do you live your life as
00:12:37.519 Christians with all of these different
00:12:40.079 things coming at you every single day. I
00:12:42.000 mean, we were talking about that alien
00:12:44.880 ship or whatever they were talking about
00:12:47.013 [clears throat] alpha.
00:12:47.440 >> Three,
00:12:48.240 >> no, alpha.
00:12:49.040 >> Three,
00:12:50.320 >> I don’t remember.
00:12:50.959 >> Atlas.
00:12:52.639 And then all of a sudden you’re like,
00:12:54.160 where is it in the news? I’m like,
00:12:55.760 nobody’s talking about it. No. Well, and
00:12:57.360 there there were the drones that were
00:12:59.200 hovering around the country
00:13:00.560 >> during Christmas and there they said
00:13:02.320 there’s all this fog and there’s all
00:13:04.079 these drones and then
00:13:05.200 >> they just disappeared.
00:13:06.000 >> They just disappeared. And on another,
00:13:08.000 you know, talking about Area 52.
00:13:12.160 >> No, 51.
00:13:13.120 >> If Area 51,
00:13:14.000 >> it’s right next to Area 52.
00:13:15.760 >> There’s two of them.
00:13:17.040 >> No, there’s not. [laughter]
00:13:19.120 >> The chip plant that they’re building out
00:13:21.279 in Phoenix, they’re going to be building
00:13:22.720 a city.
00:13:24.240 How would you know that they did not
00:13:25.680 build something underneath there? Has
00:13:27.600 anyone ever thought about that?
00:13:28.800 >> Yeah, you wouldn’t. You wouldn’t. But
00:13:30.959 that goes back to what we’re talking
00:13:32.639 about, which is we’re lied to so much
00:13:36.000 and we’re manipulated so much by the
00:13:38.000 government, by the media, by, you know,
00:13:40.240 so many different resources
00:13:42.880 firms,
00:13:43.440 >> by other law firms, by other countries.
00:13:45.519 I mean, everything is a scops where
00:13:49.120 there’s this whole manipulation of us.
00:13:51.200 We don’t know what’s up. So, I get I I
00:13:54.320 was expressing to you this past week how
00:13:56.480 I was so tired of all the different
00:13:59.120 apocalyptic thoughts, an end to the
00:14:00.880 world, an end to the economy and all
00:14:02.480 that, and you stock up on things and
00:14:05.120 comes to pass, nothing happens. Nothing
00:14:07.760 at all,
00:14:08.480 >> right? It’s like this big like
00:14:12.800 exciting
00:14:14.639 uphill.
00:14:15.680 >> Yeah. So, I guess the first
00:14:17.279 >> Thank God you’re the attorney because I
00:14:18.959 can’t think of words lately. they
00:14:20.679 [laughter] just disappear from my brain.
00:14:23.120 You’re the attorney. I get to be here
00:14:25.040 and just be the airhead that everyone
00:14:26.399 thinks I am. So, [laughter]
00:14:28.000 >> yeah. Far from far from the truth.
00:14:30.880 >> Yeah. No, but I guess the first question
00:14:34.399 with all of the different misdirection
00:14:37.440 and and uh excitability and the the
00:14:41.680 media and the the you know, end of the
00:14:44.720 world stuff. First question is why do
00:14:47.839 you think that’s going on? Why do you
00:14:49.279 think it keeps coming up?
00:14:50.399 >> Because everybody has a dopamine
00:14:52.000 addiction. Everybody needs a high from
00:14:54.240 something and they’re they’re just
00:14:59.120 lost and they
00:15:02.240 even people that have Jesus go and get
00:15:04.880 addicted to all this stuff.
00:15:06.480 >> Yeah. It’s way too easy to get caught up
00:15:09.519 in the emotion of it all.
00:15:11.680 Well, because I think people are bored
00:15:13.760 and I think people think there’s like,
00:15:15.760 you know, we talked about this last week
00:15:17.120 that Jesus made things simple, right? We
00:15:19.680 talked about
00:15:22.079 the Jewish culture and how everything
00:15:24.800 was so
00:15:28.639 uh planned and you had like the Catholic
00:15:30.800 church like I was raised Catholic,
00:15:32.480 >> right?
00:15:33.440 >> And if you don’t do this or you don’t do
00:15:36.240 that, if you don’t do something a
00:15:37.680 certain way, you don’t pray a certain
00:15:39.360 way or you don’t then it feels like
00:15:41.760 you’re not connected to Christ. And I’m
00:15:43.199 not against Catholics. I I love
00:15:45.199 Catholics. It’s it’s great. But I also
00:15:48.480 believe that Jesus made our relationship
00:15:51.440 simple,
00:15:52.320 >> right?
00:15:53.120 >> And so I think through that simplicity,
00:15:57.360 maybe we get bored or we feel like maybe
00:16:00.560 we’re desperate.
00:16:02.639 Am I like are people desperate right now
00:16:04.720 to feel like they want some relief? Like
00:16:07.600 maybe the whole end of the world is some
00:16:09.199 people are hoping it’s the end of the
00:16:10.560 world.
00:16:11.440 >> Well, and I think you know when JT was
00:16:13.199 talking about that little season where
00:16:15.680 where Christ’s millennial reign is
00:16:18.000 already over and uh Satan has been
00:16:21.519 loosed on earth for a short time. I I
00:16:24.639 think maybe that’s some of the allure to
00:16:26.639 that because honestly I kind of would am
00:16:29.519 really intrigued by it. really like that
00:16:31.839 idea. And I think part of that is easy
00:16:35.600 because
00:16:37.440 you know that Christ has already been on
00:16:39.040 the throne. You’re not waiting for him
00:16:40.639 to return. You’re not worried about a
00:16:42.720 rapture happening. And how is that? Is
00:16:44.480 that before the the mark of the beast?
00:16:46.320 Is that after the mark of the beast?
00:16:47.759 What, you know, what’s the struggle that
00:16:49.519 that we’re going to be facing? That’s
00:16:51.040 already been resolved. So there’s really
00:16:53.600 an attractiveness to it. Um, and and I
00:16:56.639 think
00:16:57.519 >> but is that maybe Satan making you feel
00:17:00.160 attracted to that?
00:17:01.279 >> And it could be. And that’s why I don’t
00:17:03.199 I you know, I want to be very clear.
00:17:04.720 We’re not shaming people for getting
00:17:06.240 caught up in the emotion of all the
00:17:08.720 apocalyptic stuff. We do. We We have and
00:17:11.439 we probably will again, but it’s it’s a
00:17:14.160 natural draw to those heightened
00:17:16.799 emotions. And I think that’s why
00:17:20.240 governments and media outlets and
00:17:25.039 governmental agencies with three letters
00:17:28.400 know that they can manipulate people. I
00:17:30.480 A S B I
00:17:32.080 >> They They know that they can manipulate
00:17:34.080 people by just creating stress,
00:17:37.360 stressful times, and they can polarize
00:17:39.760 people and they can get people so
00:17:42.080 focused on what’s going on and which
00:17:44.480 side is going to win, what’s the right
00:17:46.160 side, what’s the wrong side, that they
00:17:48.960 lose focus of what’s truly important.
00:17:51.440 And that brings me to the second
00:17:53.200 question after why are they doing it to
00:17:56.080 what’s really important? How do you
00:17:57.600 handle it? what we really need to be
00:17:59.360 doing.
00:17:59.919 >> Focusing on our family.
00:18:01.440 >> Yeah.
00:18:01.760 >> Focusing on Christ, putting him first.
00:18:04.400 >> Yeah.
00:18:05.360 >> And when you’re distracted like that,
00:18:07.679 you’re stressed. When you’re stressed,
00:18:09.440 you’re angry. You can’t have peace.
00:18:13.280 >> Right.
00:18:13.919 >> Right. Here I am stressed out. And do
00:18:16.080 you think I felt peaceful? No.
00:18:18.080 >> No.
00:18:18.720 >> And then when you don’t feel peaceful,
00:18:20.320 you feel like you’re the one who’s in
00:18:22.320 charge of your peace instead of putting
00:18:24.880 it at his feet.
00:18:26.480 >> Right. Right.
00:18:27.760 >> You end up struggling and taking control
00:18:30.960 yourself.
00:18:31.760 >> Yeah.
00:18:32.080 >> You know what? I hadn’t thought about
00:18:33.039 that, but you’re exactly right. It
00:18:34.480 brings it down. It’s so personal and it
00:18:37.039 makes you personally responsible and it
00:18:39.360 makes you so reliant on the government
00:18:41.919 and the media and and world politics and
00:18:45.039 all that rather than just letting go and
00:18:49.520 >> letting go and letting God.
00:18:50.799 >> Yeah. Letting God handle it.
00:18:52.720 >> Yeah, you’re exactly right.
00:18:56.240 Thank you. I love being right sometimes.
00:19:00.160 >> Yeah. [laughter] I tease you and and ask
00:19:02.333 [clears throat] you if you ever get
00:19:03.200 tired of being right.
00:19:05.608 [sighs]
00:19:06.320 >> I do. [laughter]
00:19:08.000 >> I don’t think you do.
00:19:10.720 >> I don’t think you do.
00:19:11.679 >> So, it it’s also confusing for people
00:19:14.000 when it comes to finding a lawyer.
00:19:17.520 >> Sure. I mean, if we’re keeping people
00:19:19.840 confused,
00:19:21.520 then they don’t know who to believe,
00:19:24.080 >> right?
00:19:25.039 >> And I think that’s part of the reason
00:19:27.280 why we wanted to do this podcast is to
00:19:29.760 show people truly who we are. We’re not
00:19:32.240 scripted,
00:19:33.120 >> right?
00:19:33.760 >> We’re talking off the cuff. This is who
00:19:36.559 we are. And
00:19:40.559 why we wanted to do it was to show them
00:19:42.880 our faith, that we’re good people. We we
00:19:46.160 answer to God first,
00:19:47.600 >> right?
00:19:48.640 >> Before anyone here on earth. So, we will
00:19:51.520 be completely honest with their case and
00:19:54.240 with them.
00:19:56.880 >> You You are completely above board with
00:20:00.000 everything that you do. And the fact
00:20:01.280 that you’ve been doing it for over 30
00:20:02.720 years, you’re an expert.
00:20:06.080 >> Thanks. Yeah.
00:20:08.240 Yeah. I knew a thing or two. [laughter]
00:20:11.360 But yeah, you’re right. It is easy for
00:20:13.679 people to get distracted about that
00:20:15.200 because there’s so many commercials.
00:20:17.600 There’s so many billboards. There’s so
00:20:19.440 many options out there. And now there
00:20:22.320 are businesses that aren’t even law
00:20:24.559 firms that are advertising as law firms
00:20:28.000 and telling people that they work for or
00:20:32.720 with the insurance company, flat out
00:20:34.559 lying to them. It’s just there’s a lot
00:20:36.880 of confusion out there. And so, yeah,
00:20:38.799 that’s one of the reasons why we felt
00:20:40.640 it’s so important to talk directly here.
00:20:44.960 >> Yeah. And and the traffic is getting
00:20:46.640 worse. I just shared Surprise Police
00:20:48.799 Department’s post where they’re doing
00:20:50.320 something within the city of Surprise
00:20:53.679 because in the retirement community, I
00:20:56.080 guess they’re running stop signs,
00:20:57.679 running stop lightss.
00:20:59.200 >> Yeah.
00:20:59.600 >> And they’re wanting them to drive safer.
00:21:01.200 And I don’t know if that’s health
00:21:02.960 related or they’re just being lazy or
00:21:06.880 what what is what is going on? What do
00:21:08.559 you think?
00:21:08.960 >> I I think that it’s there’s a lot of a
00:21:11.360 lot of people in the area. I think
00:21:13.840 there’s a lot of people coming from all
00:21:15.600 different areas. We talk about this all
00:21:17.760 around the country with different
00:21:19.200 traffic laws everywhere else and they’re
00:21:20.880 coming here and they’re bringing their
00:21:22.720 ideas of what traffic laws are
00:21:24.720 everywhere else and not really paying
00:21:26.320 attention to our specific laws. Plus,
00:21:28.640 when you have so many people and in in
00:21:31.120 that particular retirement community, uh
00:21:33.200 the the Grand uh Sun City Grand in the
00:21:36.080 Sun City area, they’re retirees. So,
00:21:39.520 they’re in their golf carts, they’re on
00:21:40.880 their bikes, they’re out walking, all
00:21:42.880 these different things, and you bring
00:21:46.400 them all together in tight spaces, and
00:21:49.360 you have a recipe for a lot of injuries,
00:21:52.480 a lot of uh accidents. And I want to
00:21:56.559 point out
00:21:59.600 something that you do repeatedly which I
00:22:03.039 really appreciate and that is that you
00:22:06.880 will see
00:22:08.880 where there’s a danger
00:22:11.280 and I feel like a lot of of injury
00:22:14.960 lawyers get so lost in what they do,
00:22:20.159 getting cases,
00:22:22.159 winning cases, earning money getting,
00:22:25.600 you know, money for their clients that
00:22:28.480 they could see a dangerous situation.
00:22:31.760 They could see an intersection that’s
00:22:34.240 dangerous or a dangerous condition in a
00:22:37.200 parking lot or in a store and say to
00:22:40.640 themselves,
00:22:42.240 when something happens there and
00:22:44.720 somebody gets hurt, I hope they call me.
00:22:47.840 And what I really appreciate appreciate
00:22:50.080 about you is that you go to the store,
00:22:56.240 you go to whoever and you raise the
00:22:59.600 issue right then and there. You say
00:23:00.960 somebody’s going to get hurt and we
00:23:02.480 don’t want them to get hurt. And that’s
00:23:04.000 what you were doing with the the
00:23:06.159 Surprise Police Department post with
00:23:08.640 them taking this proactive approach to
00:23:11.360 the traffic laws and trying to reduce
00:23:14.080 accidents. as an injury law firm for you
00:23:17.280 to say and post and and share it and say
00:23:20.000 we support what you’re doing. We don’t
00:23:21.840 want people to get hurt. I love that. I
00:23:25.200 love that because that’s why injury law
00:23:29.039 actually came about is to prevent
00:23:31.360 injuries. Not just to earn money off of
00:23:34.720 injuries. Not just to, you know, help
00:23:37.120 people after there have been injures
00:23:39.200 injuries, but to to prevent injuries, to
00:23:43.520 make businesses and municipalities and
00:23:48.640 drivers know that they need to be safer
00:23:51.760 to prevent our fellow man from being
00:23:54.320 hurt.
00:23:54.799 >> Oh, absolutely. It it it makes me so sad
00:23:58.480 to see people injured. We recently
00:24:00.880 decided we’re doing a scholarship
00:24:03.600 because one of my friends lost her son
00:24:05.760 sadly who’s 19 years old two years ago
00:24:08.720 to a car accident. Yeah.
00:24:10.480 >> And we’re doing a scholarship for kids
00:24:14.480 once a month for the next year that is a
00:24:16.880 defensive driving class in Glendale and
00:24:19.760 we will be paying for that through the
00:24:21.679 law firm.
00:24:22.480 >> Yeah. And if we can help make the road
00:24:25.760 safer,
00:24:27.919 that means so much more to me than ever
00:24:30.080 a single dollar for us to ever make
00:24:32.000 that.
00:24:32.640 >> Yeah, totally agree. And and again, it
00:24:34.720 was another
00:24:36.799 brilliant, heartfelt idea from you and I
00:24:40.799 really appreciated that you came up with
00:24:42.480 that and I’m so glad that we’re going to
00:24:45.679 be doing that. Again, that’s what we’re
00:24:47.600 supposed to do is we’re supposed to try
00:24:49.760 and make our society safer. We’re
00:24:52.080 supposed to be looking out for our
00:24:53.360 fellow man.
00:24:54.880 >> Oh, definitely. I mean, I grew up with a
00:24:57.440 My dad was chief of police of the cities
00:24:59.279 that we lived in, and I always heard the
00:25:02.400 scary stories. I didn’t really hear the
00:25:04.000 car accident stories, but we had plenty
00:25:06.080 of car accidents. Having a house up in
00:25:08.640 Wisconsin, and Wisconsin, if you look it
00:25:10.960 up, that’s like the most drunk state
00:25:13.722 [laughter] in the country, right? And
00:25:16.480 unfortunately, a lot of kids drink and
00:25:18.880 drive and get into car accidents. And
00:25:24.000 a drunk deaf mute killed my dad’s best
00:25:27.520 friend and his dad. It was Memorial Day
00:25:30.480 weekend. And I had
00:25:32.960 >> This is many years ago.
00:25:33.919 >> This was many years ago. This was when I
00:25:35.440 was in high school. And I’ve had many
00:25:37.520 people that I know that have
00:25:39.279 unfortunately been hurt or died in car
00:25:42.000 accidents. And when it comes to drinking
00:25:46.080 and driving with all the Ubers now,
00:25:48.640 there should be no excuse for somebody
00:25:50.400 to be drinking and driving.
00:25:52.159 >> Whenever I hear stuff like that or kids
00:25:54.880 speeding,
00:25:56.000 >> kids think it’s just a video game where
00:25:58.480 they get behind the wheel and they go
00:26:01.520 >> 120 miles an hour. Do they not
00:26:03.840 understand if you hit a bump, it’s not a
00:26:05.279 video game?
00:26:06.159 >> No, they don’t. They don’t. And
00:26:07.600 actually, that’s something that that
00:26:08.880 I’ve thought a lot about is the impact
00:26:12.159 of video games on their driving because
00:26:15.679 they’re used to pressing a button and
00:26:18.720 going faster or pressing a button and
00:26:20.720 stopping. And they’re not taking into
00:26:22.480 account the inertia of a big heavy
00:26:25.360 vehicle. It doesn’t just stop and start
00:26:28.080 on the press of a button. It takes time.
00:26:30.640 And then, yeah, when you hit a bump
00:26:33.120 going at 120 m an hour, you’re going to
00:26:36.080 lose control. It’s so very different
00:26:38.080 than hitting a bump at at 50 miles an
00:26:40.240 hour.
00:26:40.559 >> And what’s cool is because we put Jack
00:26:42.400 through the defensive driving class and
00:26:44.000 we’re pl our son Jack and we’re planning
00:26:45.520 on putting our daughter who’s 15,
00:26:48.080 they will show you what happens on a
00:26:50.559 video screen. So they do actually show
00:26:54.480 you if you were to go this fast or you
00:26:56.320 were to hit a pedestrian, this is what’s
00:26:59.200 going to happen, right? Right.
00:27:00.480 >> And I think that’s very important for
00:27:02.400 parents out there to not just give your
00:27:05.840 child the gift of a, you know,
00:27:10.480 driving school. You have to go that
00:27:12.880 extra step. Even if it’s not just for
00:27:15.840 them, if you think, "Oh, they’re a great
00:27:17.600 driver." There’s plenty of bad drivers
00:27:20.000 out there. And I’m always promoting
00:27:24.080 look before you turn left on a yellow
00:27:26.080 light because a somebody’s inevitably
00:27:28.960 gonna either fly through that yellow
00:27:31.279 light because they know it’s going to
00:27:32.640 turn red or fly through the red light
00:27:34.720 and you’re going to get t-boned. And
00:27:36.559 there’s so many serious injuries. And it
00:27:40.320 breaks my heart every time we go past it
00:27:42.240 or we get a call and it’s somebody going
00:27:44.880 past an intersection and a motorcycle
00:27:46.559 hits them or somebody was going 80 miles
00:27:48.720 an hour in a 50 mph zone cuz they were
00:27:50.559 trying to get through the red light.
00:27:52.559 It’s it’s not worth it for the extra 3
00:27:55.520 minutes to fly through that light.
00:27:58.960 >> No, it’s really not. And and that’s one
00:28:01.760 thing that I’ve heard before is that
00:28:05.600 when somebody is speeding to get to
00:28:07.679 their destination, on average, do you
00:28:10.559 know how much time they save?
00:28:11.919 >> Oh, isn’t it like three or four minutes
00:28:13.360 or something like that?
00:28:14.159 >> It’s like 90 seconds.
00:28:15.520 >> Oh.
00:28:16.080 >> They will literally from from driving
00:28:18.640 the speed limit and following all the
00:28:20.240 traffic laws versus speeding the same
00:28:24.159 distance to get to their same
00:28:25.679 destination, they’ll save on average
00:28:27.520 about 90 seconds. And it’s just not
00:28:29.520 worth it.
00:28:29.919 >> And with the holidays around right now,
00:28:32.720 I would love for people to proactively
00:28:36.000 think about what they’re going to do on
00:28:37.679 Thanksgiving. Think about what they’re
00:28:38.960 going to do on Christmas. Think about
00:28:40.159 what they’re going to do on New Year’s.
00:28:41.679 Proactively say, "I’m not going to drive
00:28:44.880 and drink. I’m going to be safer. I’m
00:28:48.480 going to, you know, I think to myself
00:28:51.120 when I preach on Facebook or preach
00:28:54.080 here, it feels like I am preaching cuz I
00:28:56.320 am. They’re not going to change how
00:28:58.240 they’re driving, but if they can at
00:28:59.360 least think in their head,
00:29:01.919 you know what?
00:29:03.679 I am going to do something different.
00:29:06.159 I’m not going to have three drinks at my
00:29:09.600 cousin’s house and then get in the car
00:29:11.039 and drive when I normally think I’m
00:29:12.640 fine.
00:29:13.360 >> Right.
00:29:14.080 >> Take that extra step. It’s worth it.
00:29:15.840 You’re worth it. Totally.
00:29:16.960 >> Your family’s worth it.
00:29:18.640 You got you got to tell the story about
00:29:21.039 you posting that video on Facebook
00:29:22.799 because you actually got ended out on
00:29:24.399 Facebook and the response that you got
00:29:26.480 from one of your followers was just
00:29:29.279 >> just really made you scratch your head.
00:29:31.360 >> Well, I did a probably a three or four
00:29:34.240 minute video.
00:29:35.200 >> We’re in the car.
00:29:36.080 >> I’m FaceTiming. I’m like it’s the
00:29:38.720 camera’s facing me. So, they must have
00:29:40.559 been confused because it looked like you
00:29:42.480 were on the opposite side, the driving
00:29:44.960 side. But I’m literally looking at my
00:29:47.360 phone for a full 3 minutes saying, "Hey,
00:29:51.120 when you’re driving, don’t be on your
00:29:53.200 phone. Don’t be distracted." Blah blah
00:29:55.200 blah blah blah. And my follower goes,
00:29:57.120 "You’re a hypocrite. You’re sitting
00:29:59.279 there driving recording this video." I’m
00:30:01.520 like, "Man, I wouldn’t even be like,
00:30:03.840 >> right, [laughter]
00:30:04.720 >> looking at the looking at my phone. How
00:30:07.039 can I look at the street if I’m
00:30:09.200 >> if I’m doing that?"
00:30:10.399 >> That was hilarious. Yeah. You took a
00:30:11.840 picture of me in the driver’s seat and
00:30:13.440 posted that as the follow-up comment
00:30:15.120 saying, "Ken’s driving, not [laughter]
00:30:17.760 me."
00:30:18.720 >> Well, I I stand by the fact that people
00:30:23.600 should not be distracted and driving.
00:30:25.840 >> Totally agree.
00:30:26.559 >> They think it’s not going to happen to
00:30:27.600 them, but the second they look down,
00:30:29.200 they don’t know if somebody’s going to
00:30:30.320 be passing them, you know, somebody on a
00:30:32.240 bike. And we’ve handled a lot of cases
00:30:34.320 with bikes where cars swerve and hit
00:30:36.799 them.
00:30:37.360 >> Yeah. It’s devastating. It’s
00:30:39.200 devastating. So, we already decorated
00:30:41.760 for Christmas.
00:30:42.799 >> We did
00:30:43.360 >> there. You’re either before Thanksgiving
00:30:45.440 Christmas decorators or you’re after.
00:30:48.399 >> I find it hard
00:30:51.200 for to accept after Thanksgiving
00:30:53.840 decorators cuz I feel like it’s so much
00:30:55.919 effort that goes into putting all of it
00:30:57.760 up that it’s only up for a short period
00:30:59.760 of time before you have to take it back
00:31:01.120 down. So, I kind of appreciate you
00:31:03.600 saying, "Okay, November 1st, let’s put
00:31:06.000 it up." because then you can get it up
00:31:08.000 and you can enjoy it for a couple of
00:31:09.520 months before you have to go to all the
00:31:10.880 effort of taking it down again.
00:31:12.720 >> I absolutely agree. But I just love it
00:31:14.880 because with anxiety with with just life
00:31:18.320 in general, as everybody knows, because
00:31:20.240 of all the things going on in this
00:31:22.159 country, what is better than waking up
00:31:24.880 and looking at a sparkly light in your
00:31:28.000 house where you remember, hey, this
00:31:31.039 stress will one day be gone because I
00:31:33.200 will be with Jesus in heaven.
00:31:34.640 >> Right. Right. As long as you as long as
00:31:36.559 you know Jesus, which if you don’t, I
00:31:39.600 hope that you do.
00:31:40.640 >> Right.
00:31:42.559 And I would not wish a flocked tree on
00:31:44.720 anybody.
00:31:45.600 >> No, [laughter]
00:31:47.679 they are a mess. And those flocked
00:31:50.720 trees.
00:31:51.600 >> Yeah.
00:31:52.559 >> But they’re so pretty. How can you not
00:31:54.240 have anyone else out there have a
00:31:55.519 flocked tree with all that pretty white
00:31:57.519 fake snow on it?
00:31:59.039 >> They’re pretty. It just
00:32:00.960 >> they’re pretty messy.
00:32:02.000 >> Yeah, it’s awful.
00:32:04.240 So, we were talking to our producer
00:32:06.080 about possibly having a food uh
00:32:10.159 >> critic
00:32:10.559 >> critic on here.
00:32:11.440 >> Yeah,
00:32:12.159 >> because there’s so many new restaurants
00:32:13.679 popping up in Phoenix.
00:32:15.519 >> What do you guys think about that? You
00:32:17.039 guys think you want a food critic on
00:32:18.720 here so they can say, "Hey, these are
00:32:20.880 the best places to go and eat in
00:32:22.960 Phoenix." Tonight, we’re going to go to
00:32:24.320 a sushi restaurant, which is delicious.
00:32:26.720 And I have to say, we’ve been to Nou and
00:32:29.840 we’ve been to this place called Blue
00:32:31.279 Sushi out in Surprise and there is this
00:32:34.720 one dish at Nou that is this white fish
00:32:38.320 with
00:32:40.240 they’re jalapenos on them. It’s like I
00:32:43.120 don’t remember the name of the dish, but
00:32:44.240 it’s this white fish and
00:32:45.600 >> it’s really cut really really thin
00:32:48.240 >> with lime juice and then jalapeno.
00:32:51.919 >> And the dish is like 50 bucks. It’s
00:32:53.679 worth it at Nou, but it’s not that
00:32:55.919 expensive at Blue Sushi in Surprise, and
00:33:00.000 it literally tastes the same.
00:33:01.760 >> Yeah, it’s it’s good sushi.
00:33:03.840 >> Yeah, I definitely recommend that place.
00:33:06.240 >> But I think Yeah, since you were asking
00:33:08.559 about um should we have
00:33:12.000 restaurant critics on? I think we should
00:33:14.720 also put it out there because we’ve had
00:33:17.760 various great guests so far. We’ve got
00:33:20.240 more lined up that are coming on that
00:33:22.080 we’re excited about. But what we do is
00:33:26.000 we like to have local people in Arizona
00:33:29.440 here, business owners, entrepreneurs,
00:33:31.760 other people like that that can give a
00:33:35.200 perspective to our viewers on life in
00:33:38.880 general, how life meets with their
00:33:41.519 faith, that kind of thing. And I think
00:33:43.360 it would be a great idea if anybody has
00:33:45.600 any suggestions for us of other guests
00:33:48.640 that we could have on to message us and
00:33:51.679 let us know.
00:33:52.559 >> And living in Phoenix,
00:33:54.399 >> there’s so many new people in Phoenix.
00:33:56.080 They don’t know what they’re missing out
00:33:57.679 on unless they hear about it,
00:33:59.039 >> right?
00:33:59.760 >> We could be the go-to people besides
00:34:02.159 injury law. [laughter]
00:34:07.279 Well,
00:34:09.440 I don’t know what else to say to you
00:34:10.800 right now besides you’re very gorgeous.
00:34:13.440 >> Thanks. So are you.
00:34:14.719 >> Well, thank you.
00:34:15.679 >> All right. Well, I think uh maybe we can
00:34:18.800 just bring this one to a close and we’ve
00:34:21.760 got uh like we said, a great guest lined
00:34:24.560 up next week. That’s going to be
00:34:25.918 exciting. And
00:34:27.359 >> this Friday, we will have Ryan
00:34:31.760 on the podcast. I mean, he’s already we
00:34:33.760 already recorded him, but he will his
00:34:35.440 podcast will be his
00:34:38.239 episode will be on Friday.
00:34:40.000 >> Yep.
00:34:40.399 >> And he talks about his life in the music
00:34:43.119 industry,
00:34:43.918 >> which is always fun.
00:34:45.040 >> Really exciting. It’s
00:34:46.079 >> He’s a really nice guy.
00:34:47.199 >> Yeah. Good stories.
00:34:49.119 >> Well, thank you for joining us at
00:34:51.599 Cross-examine with the Gerbers. Don’t
00:34:53.359 forget, we own Gerber Injury Law, so if
00:34:55.359 you’re injured, give us a call.
00:34:57.440 6234868300.
00:34:59.839 Bye.