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From Witchcraft to the Holy Spirit: False Prophets, Aliens & End Time Claims | Cross Examined Ep. 10

00:00:00.080 Welcome to Cross-examine with the
00:00:01.439 Gerbers. I’m Ken Gerber.
00:00:02.960 >> And I’m Megan Gerber.
00:00:07.759 >> Welcome, Megan.
00:00:08.720 >> Thank you. Welcome, Ken.
00:00:10.719 >> Thank you. We like
00:00:11.920 >> Hi, Barbie.
00:00:12.719 >> Yeah.
00:00:14.400 >> Somebody said that when we when you say
00:00:15.920 that, it reminds me Hi, Ken. Hi, Barbie.
00:00:20.640 >> So, you know, we started off coming out
00:00:23.199 here talking about an interesting topic
00:00:25.519 and our producer was like, "We’re
00:00:27.680 getting that on camera." So,
00:00:29.920 >> all right, go for it.
00:00:30.880 >> Maybe a little TMI, but I I have no idea
00:00:34.480 what this is, but Skyla says to me,
00:00:38.480 "Mom, I heard that I have all this
00:00:41.840 power." And I’m like, "Why? What are
00:00:44.399 >> what?
00:00:44.719 >> What are you talking about?" And she’s
00:00:46.480 like, "I got my period a week early last
00:00:49.360 week and all these people are getting
00:00:51.600 their period a week early." And I was
00:00:53.760 like, "Wait, what?" She’s like, "Yeah,
00:00:56.320 there’s some portal that opened." And
00:00:59.600 she goes, "I heard on Tik Tok that
00:01:01.680 there’s some portal and it’s a good
00:01:03.120 thing and all these women are getting
00:01:05.600 their period a week early." And I
00:01:07.680 literally obviously I take everything
00:01:09.520 with a grain of salt from Tik Tok.
00:01:11.280 >> Sure.
00:01:11.760 >> But what what did I say to you a week
00:01:14.880 ago?
00:01:15.360 >> You started a week early
00:01:16.799 >> and I never do.
00:01:18.400 >> Right.
00:01:18.960 >> What?
00:01:19.360 >> No, you’re like clockwork.
00:01:21.040 >> I am.
00:01:22.240 >> Well, that’s really weird. So, this is a
00:01:24.080 common thing that’s happening right now,
00:01:25.840 >> I guess.
00:01:27.119 >> And it’s a portal?
00:01:28.400 >> Yes. I don’t know.
00:01:30.159 >> Well, what kind of a portal? What does
00:01:31.520 that even mean?
00:01:32.880 >> I don’t know. But if it’s a portal
00:01:34.240 without Jesus, I don’t want it.
00:01:35.840 >> No. Right. Exactly. Exactly.
00:01:37.759 >> I don’t want no stinking port hole.
00:01:39.600 >> Right. Aren’t there people right now
00:01:41.840 saying that the rapture is is coming up
00:01:45.680 sometime soon?
00:01:46.799 >> Well, I know there’s a rap night at
00:01:48.079 Tones and Bones on Thursday nights, but
00:01:49.920 >> Yes, there is. People should people
00:01:51.360 should definitely attend that. It’s a
00:01:53.040 great night.
00:01:54.000 >> Yes. From what I’ve heard through the
00:01:56.399 grapevine, I did not see it. They’re
00:01:58.880 saying that there’s a rapture, but
00:02:00.640 >> I mean, they’re actually giving a date,
00:02:02.479 September 23rd, that they’re saying.
00:02:05.360 >> You know, I thought what I find
00:02:06.880 interesting are all these people that
00:02:10.639 claim something’s going to happen,
00:02:12.800 right? They’re like,
00:02:14.800 >> I’m a Christian, but then also, I’m
00:02:16.400 going to claim something. Maybe people
00:02:18.640 don’t know this about me, but from, and
00:02:22.319 I don’t claim it to be from Jesus at
00:02:25.280 all, from the age of 15, I was able to
00:02:28.560 smell funeral flowers when someone died
00:02:30.959 or right before they died. And
00:02:34.959 I dabbled in mediumship. I was on a
00:02:38.400 radio station. And it was very cool to
00:02:41.760 me. Like, it was almost like a parlor
00:02:43.599 trick because people people go
00:02:48.160 Oh my gosh, there’s no way that they
00:02:49.840 know this. How do they know that? I’m
00:02:52.080 telling you, there’s demons out there
00:02:54.080 that talk to your demons and then they
00:02:56.319 talk to me. And you know, I have
00:02:59.360 offended friends in the past where they
00:03:02.480 get super offended when
00:03:06.640 I say to them that I don’t trust what
00:03:11.200 they’re saying because they claim they
00:03:12.800 can tell good from bad. And they’re
00:03:14.400 Christians themselves and they can tell
00:03:16.959 that it’s not uh demonic. Bull, you
00:03:20.720 really think that you can tell the
00:03:23.120 difference? I mean, I can tell you that
00:03:27.200 I could be walking in a restaurant. I
00:03:30.000 could be walking at a grocery store and
00:03:32.720 I would hear, and I’m not schizophrenic,
00:03:35.680 I would hear in my head, like it wasn’t
00:03:37.440 verbal. I would hear, "Hey, tell her
00:03:41.920 that
00:03:43.440 Jessica is fine."
00:03:45.519 >> Yeah. I I’ve experienced that with you.
00:03:47.680 It’s just It’s wild when it used to
00:03:50.000 happen and it doesn’t anymore. We don’t
00:03:52.720 you know, you don’t allow
00:03:54.480 >> I open myself I have not opened myself
00:03:56.799 up for that. And so I believe these
00:04:00.239 people really believe that they’re
00:04:02.560 getting messages because I knew that I
00:04:05.040 got messages. I mean, I could have
00:04:07.760 someone call me that I’ve never met
00:04:09.360 before. They will not tell me their
00:04:11.200 name. They would email me saying, "My
00:04:14.480 name is Sloppy Joe and I live on, you
00:04:18.320 know, Battle Ridge Lane." And I will be
00:04:23.280 calling Sloppy Joe at some random
00:04:26.080 number. And lo and behold, within that
00:04:29.040 hour, I could tell them their name, why
00:04:31.040 they’re calling, that their child died
00:04:33.120 from cystic fibrosis. the couch they
00:04:35.120 laid on, the sandwiches that they made,
00:04:37.600 the dog, the dog’s name, everything. And
00:04:41.759 I thought it was so cool because I’m
00:04:43.600 like, look at I’m telling you. So, I
00:04:45.600 think that some of these people, they’re
00:04:48.240 basing it on probably
00:04:51.360 previous guesses. I’m I’m thinking
00:04:55.120 because let’s just be real.
00:04:56.479 >> What do you mean by previous guesses?
00:04:57.840 So, like these false prophets
00:05:00.800 believe what they’re hearing because
00:05:02.960 they’ve they’ve said things before that
00:05:05.759 came true. They’ve known things that
00:05:09.039 nobody else would know that came true. I
00:05:12.720 could tell Aaron, "Hey, how was that,
00:05:15.840 you know, Cinnabon this morning?" And
00:05:17.600 he’s like, "How’d you know? I never eat
00:05:19.680 Cinnabons." But it’s like they’re going
00:05:23.120 off of previous information that they
00:05:27.280 truly believe. And that’s the slippery
00:05:29.680 slope.
00:05:30.160 >> It’s dangerous.
00:05:31.199 >> I had someone call me and interview me
00:05:36.160 psychic-wise
00:05:37.919 because they wanted me to work for the
00:05:40.720 Disney family at 750 an hour to be their
00:05:44.479 psychic.
00:05:46.000 And what made me different? Different. I
00:05:49.600 do not promote this.
00:05:50.800 >> No. No. Yeah. Let’s be clear. You’re not
00:05:52.400 You’re not proud of this. You’re not
00:05:53.919 You’re not promoting this. This is
00:05:55.680 >> I want to be clear
00:05:56.560 >> a phase in life
00:05:57.919 >> difference for me. And true people that
00:06:02.000 hear demons or hear things,
00:06:06.160 we can tell you so much information.
00:06:08.720 this person. I could tell them what
00:06:10.240 street they grew up on, the name of the
00:06:12.479 street, the name of their preschool, the
00:06:14.960 name of a teacher.
00:06:17.199 Okay, I could say like it’s not like you
00:06:20.560 going and seeing a, you know, a medium
00:06:22.400 up in Sedona or wherever and they’re
00:06:25.919 like, "Oh, she’s 54. Your grandmother’s
00:06:29.360 coming through." Well, no kidding. I’m
00:06:31.199 freaking 54. You think my grandmother’s
00:06:33.440 alive? I mean it’s kind of like and she
00:06:36.639 misses you and loves you. Okay.
00:06:39.919 >> So what do you say about what what’s
00:06:42.000 actually going on with the stuff that
00:06:43.919 you were talking about that you
00:06:45.199 experienced? What was actually
00:06:46.960 happening?
00:06:47.520 >> So it was demons coming and talking to
00:06:49.600 me. And the crazy thing is is it does
00:06:55.039 feel very cool to get information that
00:06:58.479 other people don’t have. And you
00:07:01.680 convince yourself, well, because I have
00:07:04.560 a clean heart or because I prayed around
00:07:08.080 my spa. These people will pray around
00:07:10.240 their space.
00:07:10.880 >> Oh, they’ll light wave the smoke around
00:07:13.680 these people. Some people don’t even
00:07:14.880 like people that think they’re prophets.
00:07:18.800 They
00:07:20.160 And I’m not I’m not here to say that
00:07:22.080 there has never been a prophet in the
00:07:23.520 world. I’m not an expert on that. We
00:07:25.120 know that they’re not I’m not sitting
00:07:26.800 here saying that no one’s ever gotten
00:07:29.680 information. But there are definitely
00:07:31.919 people out there that will pray over
00:07:34.560 their space and say, you know, I pray
00:07:38.639 and I know the information that’s coming
00:07:41.680 through is holy. Now mind you, I have
00:07:47.360 stuff happen to me still even though I
00:07:50.000 ask for protection. Meaning I don’t want
00:07:52.639 to have anything to do with it.
00:07:54.879 >> No, you don’t want to talk with demons.
00:07:56.479 You don’t want to deal with demons.
00:07:58.160 >> But it still comes in your head and it
00:07:59.919 and it and it entices you. It entices
00:08:02.879 you because especially people that want
00:08:05.759 to help people,
00:08:07.919 you think you’re helping someone
00:08:10.960 because information comes in your head
00:08:13.520 that feels good in your heart and our
00:08:15.680 heart lies to us and you tell yourself,
00:08:19.199 well, how could this be wrong? You know,
00:08:21.199 this person is really hurting and I can
00:08:25.440 sense this in my head now. And you’re
00:08:29.680 saying things that give them comfort,
00:08:31.440 like
00:08:32.320 >> a loved one who passed away wants to
00:08:34.719 send them greetings and
00:08:36.080 >> absolutely information. And you have to
00:08:38.080 remember,
00:08:39.440 >> you want them going to Christ. You want
00:08:41.599 them going to God. You don’t want them
00:08:43.279 coming to you.
00:08:44.720 >> You make a lifetime of them then saying,
00:08:46.720 "Well, what do you think?" You know, one
00:08:48.800 time I was into mediumship. I was having
00:08:50.800 a lot of calls. I was, you know, getting
00:08:54.080 a taste for it. And because of one
00:08:57.440 reason or another, I’m able to hear the
00:08:58.959 demons very clearly. So, I had a dream
00:09:03.279 and I was on a cruise ship
00:09:07.360 and in this dream, now mind you, this is
00:09:09.920 a dream, my sister-in-law came to me in
00:09:12.720 my dream and said she was thinking about
00:09:15.440 like she was looking at me for wise
00:09:18.160 counsel and being a psychic at the time,
00:09:22.000 she wanted to know if she should leave
00:09:23.519 my brother and go be a lesbian.
00:09:26.720 And in my dream, because I have known
00:09:29.279 Jesus for a very long time, since I was
00:09:31.519 very little. I mean, I’ve had dreams of
00:09:33.360 him. I’ve I I could go on and on. But I
00:09:37.920 fell from that thinking that I could
00:09:40.959 control, you know, both sides. Oh, of
00:09:43.200 course I could love Jesus and do this.
00:09:45.279 But anyways, going back to the cruise
00:09:46.880 ship, she came up to me and she said,
00:09:48.480 "Megan, I’m thinking about being a
00:09:49.920 lesbian." And I thought, "Well, you know
00:09:53.440 what? The information that I’m getting
00:09:56.320 is that you need to follow your heart.
00:10:00.000 Immediately, I hear this booming noise
00:10:02.480 outside of the cruise ship. This is a
00:10:04.959 dream. This is a dream. I go out on the
00:10:08.800 balcony. Now, I’ve never even been on a
00:10:10.320 cruise ship in my life. go out on the
00:10:12.480 balcony
00:10:14.079 and it is God and he is booming mad and
00:10:20.320 he goes, "How dare you
00:10:25.200 take authority
00:10:27.120 in my place and tell my daughter what to
00:10:29.839 do."
00:10:30.320 >> Wow.
00:10:31.040 >> Don’t ever do that again. I made him so
00:10:36.240 mad at me and I felt it. Like it was, if
00:10:41.120 you’ve ever felt thunder, this was
00:10:43.839 thunder
00:10:45.360 like booming from the skies and I was so
00:10:49.440 scared after that. I woke up and I’m
00:10:51.279 like, "Oh my gosh."
00:10:53.200 >> You were done.
00:10:54.240 >> Yes. And I’m not saying I’m not perfect.
00:10:56.800 Like there’s been people that are like,
00:10:58.320 "Oh, Megan, it’s it’s okay. I mean, just
00:11:01.440 tell me a little bit of something." And
00:11:03.440 it’s very tempting because you you
00:11:05.680 convince yourself, well, I’m being
00:11:08.079 empathetic or I am trying to love on
00:11:11.680 them. And it’s a slippery slope. And
00:11:16.240 these people that are doing this, I
00:11:19.440 truly think they’re trying to a get
00:11:22.560 attention cuz I’m sorry. I’m sorry.
00:11:25.519 >> If you’re the authority for information
00:11:27.839 and you’re making money off of that,
00:11:29.920 it’s for attention. No, it’s not. It’s
00:11:32.800 really not. It’s to help people. Okay?
00:11:36.720 If you’re a Christian, I can judge you
00:11:38.560 and I’m sorry you’re wanting attention,
00:11:41.360 >> right?
00:11:42.079 >> B. I just feel it in my heart. It’s my
00:11:45.360 job. Go back to the Bible. What do they
00:11:48.240 talk about in the Bible about
00:11:49.360 mediumship? Well, it’s not. It’s me
00:11:51.120 being a prophet.
00:11:52.240 >> No, but see,
00:11:53.360 >> that’s where the slippery slope is. And
00:11:54.800 and Jack says uh about prophets that the
00:11:59.200 minute they miss one prediction, one
00:12:03.120 prediction, that’s proof that they’re
00:12:05.360 not a prophet, that they’re a false
00:12:06.800 prophet because a prophet has to get it
00:12:09.120 right every time because they’re getting
00:12:10.800 it directly from God. And this goes back
00:12:12.800 to this this prediction that people are
00:12:15.839 making of the rapture coming up in in a
00:12:19.040 you know, a week or so. if they get it
00:12:21.360 wrong, there is no reason for anybody to
00:12:24.720 ever listen to their predictions again.
00:12:27.760 And and Jesus also said, "Nobody, not
00:12:30.959 even Jesus knows the date."
00:12:33.200 >> Nope.
00:12:34.000 >> Only the father, our father in heaven
00:12:35.760 knows the date. So why would these
00:12:37.839 people know more than Jesus knew? I do
00:12:40.240 know it was coming from demons because
00:12:43.519 how can I
00:12:46.480 go and tell somebody at a grocery store,
00:12:51.680 your sister made it to heaven, they’re
00:12:53.360 fine.
00:12:55.600 How is that I’d like to ask Christians
00:12:58.240 out there, how is that ever okay? How
00:13:01.920 can I ever
00:13:04.160 tell somebody this person made it to
00:13:06.480 heaven, a stranger? How do I know what
00:13:09.440 what I mean? I don’t know their heart.
00:13:12.399 That immediately tells me this is
00:13:14.639 misinformation.
00:13:16.079 >> And so it, if I’m understanding it
00:13:18.320 correctly, it’s a lot of times it’s a
00:13:22.639 demon who knows what’s going on in that
00:13:25.600 person’s life, talking to demons who
00:13:28.240 knows know what’s going on in your life.
00:13:30.639 Yes. And telling you, say this. That
00:13:33.120 will get that person’s attention. That
00:13:34.880 will pull out their emotions. that will
00:13:37.440 get them to believe you and and have
00:13:39.760 these feelings.
00:13:40.800 >> Well, how scary if you think about this,
00:13:42.720 right?
00:13:44.240 You have someone desperate, they’re sad,
00:13:47.440 they’re lonely, they’re going through a
00:13:49.600 divorce, they want to know what they
00:13:52.160 should do with their lives, and they’ve
00:13:54.320 prayed and they feel like they don’t
00:13:56.160 hear God, right? They feel like they
00:13:58.160 haven’t they haven’t heard God. And you
00:14:00.000 know, Christians, people tell me you
00:14:01.920 should pray and God will God will speak
00:14:03.839 to you. Well, if you haven’t had a
00:14:05.279 relationship with him, it’s very
00:14:06.480 difficult to hear his voice. And so, you
00:14:09.279 decide you’re going to go to a psychic.
00:14:11.199 You go to the psychic, and the psychic
00:14:13.279 says, "Who’s Tom?"
00:14:16.959 What? Who’s Tom? Tom’s my husband I’m
00:14:19.920 about to divorce.
00:14:21.839 Oh, I’m getting this information that
00:14:24.880 it’s good. This relationship is really
00:14:28.399 chaotic. AS We’re getting a divorce.
00:14:33.040 I I Can you tell me more? Yes. Um, you
00:14:38.160 have a ring. You have a ring that is on
00:14:41.440 your nightstand
00:14:43.279 that is from your grandmother.
00:14:45.839 Yes, I do have a ring. Now, the demon’s
00:14:49.199 at their house and the demon’s talking
00:14:51.199 to me. What your grandmother is telling
00:14:54.639 me is yes, divorce him. You need to
00:14:59.199 divorce him. and you need to take the
00:15:02.880 kids from him. The kids are not safe
00:15:05.440 with him at all. Now, did you go on a
00:15:09.199 trip to Hawaii last last spring?
00:15:14.240 I did. I know you. I know your life. I’m
00:15:18.639 reading everything about you. You should
00:15:20.880 listen to everything I have to say.
00:15:22.480 >> Right. So now the psychic, the medium is
00:15:25.839 the authority
00:15:27.440 >> as opposed to Jesus’s word and our
00:15:30.720 father in heaven.
00:15:32.399 >> And so it’s convincing them not to go to
00:15:35.279 the Bible.
00:15:36.800 >> They’re going to this psychic and that’s
00:15:39.920 the authority.
00:15:40.720 >> But can you imagine if if it’s a
00:15:42.639 Christian psychic or a Christian
00:15:44.880 prophet?
00:15:45.519 >> Sure.
00:15:46.079 >> Listen, this is what this is what is
00:15:48.079 coming to me. But you should pray about
00:15:50.720 it. It’s influencing,
00:15:53.600 >> right?
00:15:54.000 >> It’s influencing that person. And if you
00:15:57.600 can believe that the end of the world is
00:15:59.839 September 23rd,
00:16:02.000 you need to double check your
00:16:03.279 Christianity. You need to double check
00:16:06.320 where your faith is. Because if you’re
00:16:08.480 wanting to jump at that, you’re not
00:16:10.639 getting filled up by the Lord. You’re
00:16:12.160 getting filled up by a dopamine high of
00:16:14.480 trying to figure out when the end of the
00:16:16.320 world is,
00:16:16.880 >> right? Well, what are people supposed to
00:16:18.639 do with that knowledge anyway? Okay. The
00:16:21.600 the rapture is happening on September
00:16:23.600 23rd. What am I supposed to do with
00:16:25.199 that?
00:16:25.600 >> Do you want to know the truth?
00:16:27.360 >> Sure.
00:16:28.160 >> The devil is the best at creating
00:16:30.639 dopamine addictions.
00:16:31.920 >> Oh yeah.
00:16:32.880 >> Every single thing is about a rush, a
00:16:36.880 dopamine addiction. And it’s the next
00:16:38.959 thing. It’s the next thing. It’s the
00:16:40.320 next thing. So everything in this world
00:16:43.600 is about fastpaced dopamine addictions.
00:16:47.120 It’s about being on your phone and then
00:16:49.040 it gets boring. We have to send out the
00:16:50.880 next exciting thing that the world is
00:16:53.120 ending. Everyone is bored and they’re
00:16:56.480 needing the next high. They’re needing
00:16:58.959 the next hit. They’re needing It’s not
00:17:01.680 good enough to show cleavage. Now you
00:17:03.360 have to be naked. It’s not good enough
00:17:04.720 to be naked. Now you have to have nipple
00:17:06.559 clips. I mean, you could go on and on
00:17:08.720 and on and on. I mean, I’m not even
00:17:10.400 kidding. Like,
00:17:13.919 you know, by saying that stuff, they’re
00:17:15.599 maybe saying, "Hey, go pray." and
00:17:18.559 they’re telling them to go to Jesus out
00:17:20.319 of fear. And I’m not saying if you’re
00:17:22.319 fearful, you can’t find Jesus. You can.
00:17:24.880 But if it’s just about a date,
00:17:26.720 >> once the fear is gone,
00:17:28.400 >> Mhm.
00:17:29.280 >> you know, September 23rd comes and goes,
00:17:32.400 once the fear is gone, then the people
00:17:35.840 who went to Jesus, based on the fear,
00:17:38.799 are they going to stay there? Are they
00:17:40.559 going to come back? Or are they going to
00:17:42.080 say, "Well, that’s everything’s fine
00:17:43.760 now. I don’t need I don’t need Jesus."
00:17:45.520 >> Yeah. And that’s like with everything,
00:17:46.960 you know, somebody has cancer, somebody
00:17:49.520 is driving, you know, it’s it’s this
00:17:52.160 magical
00:17:53.679 uh thing to pray to God and say, "God,
00:17:56.960 please." And then once you’re done with
00:17:58.880 that, you’re on to the next thing,
00:18:00.240 >> right?
00:18:00.880 >> You know, I give anything if and then
00:18:03.679 that thing happens and you forget. And
00:18:06.080 that’s really what’s sad. And that’s
00:18:07.679 where, you know, our father in heaven is
00:18:10.080 wanting a relationship with us. And at
00:18:12.240 the end of the day, not the divorce, not
00:18:14.080 the move, everything else are things
00:18:16.720 happening in your life
00:18:19.280 pushing you to have a relationship with
00:18:22.320 Jesus, not pushing you to a prophet,
00:18:24.799 pushing you to a psychic, pushing you
00:18:26.960 for answers. And I get it. It’s hard
00:18:29.280 when you feel like you don’t know what
00:18:30.880 to do. I mean, there’s been many times
00:18:32.799 in my life where I wish God would just
00:18:35.200 literally
00:18:36.960 give me a book. Oh, wait. He did.
00:18:41.280 You know,
00:18:43.440 I as well as other people out there have
00:18:45.760 to hold their thoughts captive. You
00:18:49.200 know, on Friday, I was in the mall with
00:18:52.559 Skyla, our daughter Skyla, and I was
00:18:56.240 feeling dizzy. You know, I get a lot of
00:18:58.240 u health things that go along with my
00:19:00.160 hormones. And I went to go put on my
00:19:02.559 shoe cuz I was trying on clothes. And I
00:19:04.559 stuck my finger in my shoe and I said,
00:19:06.160 "God, I’m so sick of feeling dizzy. I’m
00:19:08.880 sick of it." and my nail broke off. I’m
00:19:11.919 not saying he broke my nail off, but it
00:19:14.240 it made me pause for a minute here. I’m
00:19:17.280 yelling at God for me feeling dizzy,
00:19:20.080 like he has control over it. And then
00:19:23.520 Saturday, I woke up and I felt so happy.
00:19:29.039 Nothing that bothered me for the last
00:19:32.080 however long was bothering me. I felt so
00:19:35.360 light. I was actually able to do my
00:19:37.120 friend’s hair. And I haven’t done hair
00:19:39.039 in so long. And it just felt like I was
00:19:41.360 the old me. And at the end of the day,
00:19:46.160 I felt God saying to me, "This is what
00:19:48.640 it’s like taking your thoughts captive."
00:19:52.160 And if we’re going to psychics and we’re
00:19:54.480 looking for the end of the world and
00:19:55.919 we’re wondering what’s going to happen
00:19:57.919 to us, the first step is holding your
00:20:00.400 thoughts captive so we can actually hear
00:20:03.039 what God’s saying,
00:20:04.160 >> right? You don’t need a prophet. You
00:20:05.919 don’t need I mean, I’m not saying that
00:20:07.679 we didn’t need the people that wrote the
00:20:10.320 Bible. We did. God had purpose for them.
00:20:12.880 God has purpose for all of us. But the
00:20:15.520 point is, we have so much distraction.
00:20:20.000 Whether it’s September 23rd, you’re
00:20:21.679 going to die. Then we got the threeey
00:20:23.919 atlas that’s supposedly coming in
00:20:25.840 November that even Elon Musk claims is
00:20:28.320 an alien ship. This is an alien ship
00:20:30.559 that’s supposed to get here sometime in
00:20:33.200 November.
00:20:34.159 >> Yes, it’s 13 miles long
00:20:36.400 >> there. Again, what’s the point of even
00:20:39.200 telling people about that? And it it’s
00:20:41.919 just again another fear mongering thing.
00:20:44.799 What are people supposed to do with that
00:20:46.240 knowledge?
00:20:46.640 >> Well, it’s fear-mongering. And then you
00:20:48.159 want to know something that’s so crazy
00:20:50.000 is I think we’re numb as a society. I
00:20:53.120 think even if Jesus was in front of us,
00:20:54.960 a lot of people go, "You’re not Jesus."
00:20:56.559 Just like they did back in the day.
00:20:57.679 Sure.
00:20:58.400 >> It is Satan’s way of always distracting
00:21:02.240 us
00:21:02.880 >> with fear.
00:21:03.760 >> With fear. He’s always distracting us
00:21:06.640 with something. Whether it’s like Jack
00:21:09.919 had said in a previous our son,
00:21:12.000 pornography, food, a fear of not being
00:21:14.960 good enough. And and it goes back to
00:21:17.200 even CCV. They’re talking about control
00:21:19.200 this week and having to control
00:21:21.039 everything and not allowing God to guide
00:21:24.000 you. And you know, even us sharing our
00:21:26.640 faith, that probably
00:21:29.440 takes away clients that we could have if
00:21:31.120 they don’t like that we do that.
00:21:32.880 >> It would probably be very easy for us to
00:21:35.760 have continued
00:21:37.760 with you, with the the demons talking to
00:21:41.039 you and making those predictions and
00:21:42.799 practicing without feeling like what we
00:21:46.240 do is under a spotlight of what Jesus
00:21:49.440 says.
00:21:50.159 >> I mean, you’re an attorney that makes
00:21:51.600 $500 an hour. I was offered $750 an hour
00:21:54.159 to possibly work for the Disney family,
00:21:56.240 >> right?
00:21:56.559 >> Being a psychic,
00:21:57.440 >> right?
00:21:57.919 >> But at the end of the day, just like
00:22:01.360 that guy t, you know, taking the hat
00:22:03.440 from the kid at the baseball game, just
00:22:04.960 like the lady taking the baseball, we
00:22:07.360 have to look inside.
00:22:09.520 Where is our soul? Where do we want our
00:22:11.760 soul to be one day? And I know for me, I
00:22:15.679 want to be up in heaven praising my Lord
00:22:18.880 and Savior.
00:22:19.760 >> Sure. And every day when you wake up,
00:22:24.480 you have to think about that. And if
00:22:26.960 you’re feeling scared or you’re feeling
00:22:29.440 like you don’t have control of your
00:22:31.679 life, it’s because you haven’t put that
00:22:33.679 time in to be reading the book, the
00:22:37.440 instruction book that God gave us. And
00:22:40.320 it’s all in there. And we take it as a
00:22:42.799 cliche and we take it for granted. Take
00:22:44.880 captive of our thoughts.
00:22:47.600 How easy is that? do not worry.
00:22:50.960 But yet we worry. And here I am telling
00:22:53.600 my kids, "Oh, just don’t worry about
00:22:55.679 that. It’ll be fine. I wish they would
00:22:58.240 just trust me and believe me." But here
00:23:00.559 we don’t do that for our creator. He
00:23:03.440 built us. He built every little piece of
00:23:06.400 us. And we don’t take what he says into
00:23:09.120 consideration. Ah, he doesn’t mean it.
00:23:10.799 I’m going to worry. What am What else am
00:23:12.480 I supposed to do? He gave us an
00:23:14.640 instruction book.
00:23:16.880 And for me, I need to take that more
00:23:20.640 seriously. Not with a grain of salt like
00:23:23.440 I do with everything else.
00:23:24.559 >> Yeah. All anxiety stems from a feeling
00:23:28.400 of a lack of control trying to get
00:23:30.480 control.
00:23:30.960 >> And I’m not perfect. And when I do
00:23:34.960 100%
00:23:36.559 listen to his instructions,
00:23:39.039 I have an amazing day. Not because
00:23:40.880 everything is perfect, but because I
00:23:43.360 know it will be okay. He’s in charge.
00:23:46.640 He’s on the throne.
00:23:47.760 >> Absolutely.
00:23:48.320 >> And we just trust in him and follow what
00:23:50.320 he says, things will fall in place as
00:23:52.799 they’re supposed to. How do you explain
00:23:55.039 those people? The guy pulling the hat
00:23:57.280 away from the kid at the baseball game
00:23:59.280 and that lady making such a big deal
00:24:01.679 about that ball and getting the the ball
00:24:04.000 at the other baseball game.
00:24:05.679 >> Dopamine.
00:24:07.200 It’s us being more concerned about our
00:24:10.400 dopamine hit. somebody cuts us off, it
00:24:12.640 feels better to flip them off and honk
00:24:14.799 at them. It’s not being present and
00:24:19.919 actually
00:24:22.000 being present and seeing what you’re
00:24:24.880 doing as a human being. Do you think
00:24:26.400 those people if they are Christian and
00:24:28.559 let’s say they go to heaven and they see
00:24:30.720 what they did above like can you watch
00:24:33.520 yourself? What I mean what is that movie
00:24:35.919 at Christmas, right? a Christmas carol
00:24:38.480 where you get to go back and see how you
00:24:40.480 act,
00:24:41.120 >> right?
00:24:41.600 >> These people aren’t thinking, they’re
00:24:43.679 reacting. And that’s what this whole
00:24:45.520 world I mean, I did a post last week.
00:24:48.080 Some lady had asked about, "Hey, I have
00:24:51.440 three cats, two litter boxes. The one
00:24:53.760 cat keeps peeing outside the litter
00:24:55.919 box." I respond and I say, "Oh, hey, I
00:24:59.600 heard that it’s two litter boxes per
00:25:01.520 cat. So, I have four cats and eight
00:25:03.360 litter boxes." But then after I said
00:25:05.279 that, I thought, I better go check my
00:25:07.120 information. Within a minute, I put at
00:25:09.760 the bottom, edit, I’m so sorry. I was
00:25:12.159 incorrect. It’s one and a half litter
00:25:13.919 boxes.
00:25:14.240 >> Oh, they came after you.
00:25:15.520 >> Why would she say two litter boxes? Why
00:25:17.440 would she? And I’m like, who? They’re
00:25:19.919 reacting without even reading the entire
00:25:22.559 thing. And as a society, I’m sorry. That
00:25:26.159 instant reaction is because you’re
00:25:27.760 jonesing for a dopamine rush.
00:25:30.320 >> Yeah. So, they’re wanting attention for
00:25:32.000 what they’re saying. They want to be
00:25:33.520 right. and and they’re getting the rush
00:25:35.600 off of attacking you.
00:25:36.640 >> Well, think about it. Think about it.
00:25:38.640 The second you see something at Tik Tok
00:25:40.640 that’s sad or that’s the world is
00:25:42.960 ending, what do you what is that?
00:25:47.120 I can’t believe,
00:25:48.559 >> right? blah. It’s this dopamine rush
00:25:52.559 that you get this instant reaction. You
00:25:55.440 know, I think that in one word, not
00:25:58.799 listening to the whole thing
00:26:01.200 and and it’s this instant reaction.
00:26:03.520 That’s why these people are doing this
00:26:05.520 at these baseball games. That’s why
00:26:07.360 these people are, you know, getting in
00:26:10.159 fights and they’re not present.
00:26:13.279 >> Well, and you use a lot of times the
00:26:16.000 imagery of crabs in a bucket, too.
00:26:18.720 They’re crawling over top of each other
00:26:20.640 trying to get to the top, trying to get
00:26:22.559 the attention, trying to get to the
00:26:24.960 goal, get the baseball, get the hat,
00:26:27.440 because that brings them that
00:26:29.360 satisfaction, that rush, that dopamine
00:26:31.520 that you’re talking about.
00:26:32.720 >> Well, it’s sad because the way the world
00:26:34.480 is is everyone’s out for themselves. And
00:26:36.880 the good thing is is that we have Jesus
00:26:38.799 Christ who wasn’t out for himself. He
00:26:40.880 sacrificed the ultimate sacrifice. He
00:26:43.360 gave himself. He was the most perfect
00:26:45.039 human being that has. He was the perfect
00:26:47.440 human being that walked this earth and
00:26:49.840 he set an example of how we should be to
00:26:52.640 others.
00:26:53.360 >> Right?
00:26:53.919 >> And I think before you step out of bed
00:26:57.039 in the morning, you should decide how
00:27:00.640 you want to be that day, how you want to
00:27:05.039 represent the Lord. And you know, I
00:27:06.960 don’t know if these people are Christian
00:27:08.240 or not, but
00:27:11.440 I think it would behoove everyone to
00:27:14.080 just take a breath. always take a
00:27:16.400 breath, take a pause, think about it,
00:27:18.960 and think about it in light of what
00:27:21.919 Jesus has instructed us to do.
00:27:23.600 >> And what’s funny is a lot of the
00:27:24.640 self-help books out there, whether they
00:27:26.159 claim it or not, it’s all based off
00:27:27.840 Bible biblical principles.
00:27:29.200 >> Totally. Totally.
00:27:30.720 >> And at the end of the day, all these
00:27:33.279 people have lack of contentment. And the
00:27:35.440 only way for them to be fulfilled is
00:27:37.600 through Jesus Christ.
00:27:39.200 >> Amen. Well, thanks for joining us on
00:27:41.039 Crossexamined with the Gerbers. We
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