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Faith, Family, and Justice: Meet the Gerbers | Cross Examined Ep. 1

00:00:00.080 Welcome to Crossex Examine with the
00:00:01.680 Gerbers. I’m Ken Gerber and this is my
00:00:03.760 beautiful wife, Megan Gerber. Hi, Megan.
00:00:05.759 >> Hi, Ken.
00:00:10.000 >> How are you feeling today?
00:00:11.040 >> I’m fantastic. Joyful and excited to get
00:00:14.960 this ball rolling.
00:00:16.239 >> Yeah. Yeah. Me, too. Me, too. So, first
00:00:19.520 podcast, Cross-examine with the Gerbers.
00:00:22.000 You want to talk a little bit about why
00:00:23.359 we’re doing the podcast?
00:00:24.640 >> Yes. Cuz I want to cross-examine you.
00:00:26.560 >> Yeah. Well, that happens pretty much
00:00:27.680 every day. Nothing is more fun than
00:00:29.439 cross-examining my husband on live
00:00:32.640 television.
00:00:33.600 >> So, I’m an attorney. I have been for 30
00:00:36.880 years. I’ve gone up against some very
00:00:39.120 good, very seasoned attorneys. Nobody
00:00:42.399 cross-examines better than you.
00:00:44.160 >> Yes. What do I win? Do I win something?
00:00:47.840 >> You win me. Ah,
00:00:49.200 >> well, I guess that’s good enough.
00:00:52.800 >> So, I’m excited. Everyone keeps saying,
00:00:54.960 "What’s this podcast going to be about?"
00:00:57.199 >> Right. It’s going to be about
00:00:58.719 everything. It’s going to be about
00:00:59.920 cross-examining
00:01:01.680 our lives, everything going on in our
00:01:04.879 lives, and then I’m assuming other
00:01:06.960 people are going to Do you hear the dog?
00:01:08.880 >> I know. It’s like
00:01:10.159 >> Ken has to have the dog out here with
00:01:11.840 him. It’s his little buddy.
00:01:13.040 >> He’s quiet. Every other day we’re out
00:01:15.040 here, but when we’re recording, he’s got
00:01:16.799 to talk.
00:01:17.360 >> He wanted to let everybody know he’s
00:01:18.880 here. We have a We have actually three
00:01:22.000 dogs,
00:01:22.720 >> right?
00:01:23.280 >> This is the German Shepherd. He is a
00:01:25.759 year and a half and he decided he wants
00:01:27.040 to be whiny right now. Fabulous.
00:01:29.920 Then we have a he then we have a golden,
00:01:32.400 >> right?
00:01:32.880 >> Ruby. She’s three. And then we have
00:01:38.240 >> Miss Violet who is How old is Violet?
00:01:41.520 11.
00:01:42.479 >> I don’t know. She’s ancient.
00:01:43.840 >> She’s a chocolate lab.
00:01:45.280 >> She’s got a lot of allergies. Do you
00:01:47.360 guys know what I mean? you if you have a
00:01:49.520 dog that has allergies, but yet we live
00:01:51.200 in Arizona. She wants to go in the pool
00:01:52.799 all the time, which I don’t blame her.
00:01:55.200 She’s hot. It’s hot. And she’s allergic
00:01:58.479 to chlorine. I think
00:01:59.680 >> I think she is. I think she is. Let’s
00:02:02.719 talk about what it is that we have going
00:02:07.040 on in our lives that even make any of
00:02:10.160 this relevant.
00:02:11.200 >> Well, we’re human and we’re here. So, a
00:02:13.680 that’s relevant,
00:02:14.560 >> right?
00:02:15.840 First and foremost, we have the cross.
00:02:19.040 >> Yes,
00:02:19.760 >> it’s cross-examined. Obviously, a double
00:02:22.160 antandra there. Uh the cross because of
00:02:25.120 our faith.
00:02:26.239 >> Yes,
00:02:27.040 >> Jesus comes first in whatever we do.
00:02:29.280 It’s been a long road to get here and
00:02:32.400 nobody’s perfect. We’re not perfect, but
00:02:34.400 >> nope.
00:02:34.959 >> We strive daily to put Jesus first and
00:02:37.519 we’re doing that here in the podcast as
00:02:39.120 well.
00:02:39.840 >> Absolutely. Everything will be examined
00:02:43.040 and then we will look at it through the
00:02:45.360 lens of Jesus and say how does that how
00:02:48.640 does that work? How does being messy in
00:02:51.760 our lives? Because we all have messy
00:02:54.160 lives, right? Nothing is smooth, right?
00:02:56.640 >> And how do we look to the Lord to help
00:02:58.879 us kind of sort everything out.
00:03:01.840 >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then the
00:03:04.159 cross-examine. Obviously, I mentioned
00:03:06.239 that I’m an attorney. We own the law
00:03:08.000 firm together. That’s been 15 years that
00:03:10.560 we’ve run that and it’s really you
00:03:12.239 running it and me working for you.
00:03:13.519 >> Well, which law firm is that if they
00:03:14.800 don’t know who we are?
00:03:15.599 >> Well, we are Gerber Injury Law.
00:03:18.159 >> Yes.
00:03:18.879 >> Yeah. And so, yeah, it’s you running it,
00:03:22.080 me working for you.
00:03:22.800 >> Well, not really. I don’t really run it.
00:03:25.280 >> We run it together.
00:03:26.560 >> Yeah. But you’re the brains behind a lot
00:03:28.239 of what we do. And you you really handle
00:03:32.000 many aspects of it and allow me just to
00:03:34.640 be the attorney. Well, the fabulous
00:03:36.400 thing about us is we really respect each
00:03:39.519 other’s lanes, right?
00:03:40.959 >> And we come to one another when we have
00:03:43.120 questions or we we seek each other’s
00:03:46.159 guidance and it works out that way. A
00:03:49.120 lot of people that have come in as have
00:03:50.560 said, "Wow, I really have never seen a
00:03:52.720 law firm run this smoothly with a
00:03:54.879 husband and wife,
00:03:56.000 >> right?
00:03:56.560 >> Because we stay in our own lanes. You do
00:03:58.400 what you do well and I do what I do
00:04:00.000 well."
00:04:00.480 >> Yeah. Well, and here’s the thing. They
00:04:02.480 you can take business law classes in law
00:04:05.120 school, but they don’t teach running a
00:04:08.239 business. It’s just the law of the
00:04:10.000 business. And I feel like so many times
00:04:13.920 lawyers run their law firms and they
00:04:17.600 don’t really have that business sense.
00:04:19.600 And that’s one of the main things that
00:04:21.279 you bring is that that real world, that
00:04:23.680 business smarts for it. uh and and uh
00:04:28.080 the ability to not talk in lawyer talk
00:04:30.880 all the time.
00:04:32.000 >> Yes, I am the lawyer whisperer for our
00:04:34.800 clients. I remember when we first
00:04:36.880 started out and you just wanted to put
00:04:38.960 Gerber Law and I’m like, "Dude, no, I am
00:04:42.800 not. You know, I’m a busy person, but I
00:04:45.520 think in general everybody," and I hate
00:04:47.280 that word. I don’t know why. It’s just
00:04:49.120 lately busy, the word busy has rubbed me
00:04:51.280 raw. It’s almost like a badge of honor
00:04:52.960 to be busy, but like what are you busy
00:04:55.360 with? Right.
00:04:56.479 >> Right.
00:04:56.880 >> Being busy all the time does not mean
00:04:58.320 being productive.
00:04:59.360 >> Right.
00:04:59.759 >> Right. So anyways, when you told me
00:05:02.960 Gerber Law, I thought, uh-uh, we need to
00:05:06.080 add the word injury because if I am
00:05:08.639 driving past a billboard, a sign, an
00:05:12.800 advertisement, I want to know what you
00:05:14.800 do right off the bat,
00:05:16.160 >> right? And you were gracious enough
00:05:19.120 because a lot of attorneys, let’s just
00:05:20.639 be honest, have big egos.
00:05:22.720 >> Absolutely they do.
00:05:23.919 >> You did not. Not that you don’t have a
00:05:27.280 little bit of an ego.
00:05:30.320 There’s a little bit one in there, but
00:05:32.320 you really are open to allow me to give
00:05:36.560 you ideas and I really appreciate that.
00:05:38.479 >> Yeah. Well, you come up with great ideas
00:05:40.560 and and that’s one of the reasons why
00:05:42.960 we’ve grown as much as we have over the
00:05:45.520 last 15 years. That’s one of the reasons
00:05:47.120 why we’ve been as successful as we have
00:05:49.440 is because of your ideas, your
00:05:50.880 direction.
00:05:51.759 >> Well, thank you. And how brilliant you
00:05:53.759 are in cases, though.
00:05:55.280 >> Well, thanks.
00:05:56.080 >> You see all the little details that
00:05:57.680 other people don’t see.
00:05:58.960 >> Yeah.
00:05:59.440 >> You can sniff out those insurance
00:06:02.479 insurance. There goes the pmenopause
00:06:05.360 brain.
00:06:06.080 >> The policy.
00:06:06.960 >> Yes.
00:06:08.600 [Music]
00:06:10.240 Ladies, can you feel me with that
00:06:11.520 pmenopause?
00:06:13.919 >> So, we’ve got that going on as well.
00:06:16.000 >> I know. It’s fabulous.
00:06:18.800 >> And so, we’ll talk some about our faith.
00:06:22.560 We’ll talk some about our law firm. And
00:06:25.840 one of the things that our law firm has
00:06:30.560 given us the ability to do to pour into
00:06:34.560 is a nonprofit ministry that you’re
00:06:38.240 heading up. And so that that brings the
00:06:40.639 business and and the faith together. So
00:06:43.919 talk about that for a minute. Yeah, it’s
00:06:46.400 it’s kind of one of those things where
00:06:48.880 we were always working to be successful
00:06:50.960 at the law firm and it was every year
00:06:53.039 there’s numbers and there’s goals and
00:06:56.160 there still are numbers and goals but
00:06:58.240 eventually we got to the point where we
00:07:01.039 were pretty self-sufficient and we were
00:07:03.759 um kind of had a welloiled machine and I
00:07:07.280 was feeling a little empty. I had enough
00:07:09.520 shoes. I had enough purses. I had enough
00:07:11.759 things. And I thought, this is very much
00:07:14.800 an empty feeling. I enjoy when we’re a
00:07:18.560 part of missions teams. We went to
00:07:21.520 Jamaica. We’ve been to Poland. And I got
00:07:26.080 such fulfillment
00:07:28.160 going and doing these things that I felt
00:07:31.120 like I need to have something in my life
00:07:33.599 where I feel like I’m giving back every
00:07:36.240 day, you know? One of the things that I
00:07:39.360 did, and this isn’t about the nonprofit,
00:07:42.240 one of my friends, she had cancer, and I
00:07:45.680 was making her homemade broth.
00:07:48.479 >> Chicken broth.
00:07:49.280 >> Yeah. And I had never made homemade
00:07:51.120 chicken broth. And I thought, "This is
00:07:54.240 something I think I can do." Going back
00:07:56.000 to the word busy. Your busy can be cheap
00:07:59.520 or your busy can have deep value.
00:08:02.960 There’s depth to your busy. And it feels
00:08:06.560 to me when I’m giving back with the
00:08:08.240 nonprofit or I’m giving back to my
00:08:10.400 friend and making her chicken soup or
00:08:12.080 I’m giving back in Jamaica and spreading
00:08:15.280 the word of the Lord and hugging on
00:08:17.280 these children and giving them love.
00:08:19.680 There is this it’s it’s actually
00:08:22.240 priceless. You end up feeling so much
00:08:26.319 bigger than your problems. you feel so
00:08:29.280 much bigger than
00:08:32.399 anything that has
00:08:35.039 materialistic value
00:08:37.440 and that’s why we decided to do that. We
00:08:39.919 wanted to give back. It started off as
00:08:42.479 just a youth center and then other
00:08:44.959 people wanted to share the space
00:08:47.680 ministries and I thought heck, why not?
00:08:50.240 Because we’re open to whatever God is
00:08:52.000 going to bring to us and we want to have
00:08:54.720 him guide us. It’s not just our idea,
00:08:57.200 >> right? And I don’t think we’ve even said
00:08:59.200 the name of the ministry, the name of
00:09:00.720 the the center.
00:09:01.600 >> It’s tones and bones.
00:09:02.880 >> So give a little bit of background about
00:09:04.320 that. What’s the tones? What’s the
00:09:05.600 bones?
00:09:06.080 >> So the tones is music. And our son Jack,
00:09:10.480 he loves music. And he he we could get
00:09:14.000 into further detail of it, but Jack was
00:09:16.240 actually uh diagnosed as severe autistic
00:09:19.279 and didn’t speak till he was five, but
00:09:21.760 he has found his voice through music.
00:09:24.480 >> And he’s now 19.
00:09:25.600 >> And now he’s 19. and he helps run it.
00:09:28.240 He’s the assistant director. He has a
00:09:30.240 band called Three Heart Cross and he
00:09:32.720 writes Christian music. And so the tones
00:09:35.360 come through that. But then also going
00:09:37.440 back to Jack, Jack has always loved
00:09:40.560 paleontology. We’ve been on a dinosaur
00:09:42.800 dig with the University of Chicago, Dr.
00:09:45.519 Paul Serino. And so all of you people
00:09:48.560 that think dinosaurs aren’t real,
00:09:50.080 they’re real. I literally dug one up. if
00:09:53.440 you want to call it something else.
00:09:55.200 Legit, this thing was a, you know, those
00:09:58.320 Land of the Lost. Oh, no. Was that the
00:10:00.240 movie?
00:10:00.640 >> Land of the Lost. Yeah,
00:10:01.600 >> there were dinosaurs in that, right?
00:10:03.200 >> Right.
00:10:03.760 >> Those big long necks, that’s like the
00:10:05.600 size of the dinosaur we dug up. I
00:10:07.600 literally dug up a rib.
00:10:10.000 >> So, that’s the bones. Jack really wants
00:10:12.480 to bring in fossils from Arizona and
00:10:16.640 have schools come in where he can teach
00:10:20.800 about the fossils of Arizona. But then
00:10:23.200 there’s also bones in the Bible
00:10:26.160 >> in Ezekiel 37:4 again he said to me
00:10:29.279 prophesy to these bones and say to them
00:10:31.440 oh dry bones hear the word of the Lord.
00:10:34.880 I think there’s other verses as well,
00:10:38.000 but uh it was not until after we were in
00:10:42.000 Tones and Bones that we even put that
00:10:45.279 connection together and and one of our
00:10:48.079 our people brought it to us and
00:10:50.160 >> we were like, "That’s amazing. Love the
00:10:52.800 way God works." because we had decided
00:10:54.640 on tones and bones about a year prior to
00:10:57.440 that and then focusing on the ministry
00:11:01.360 side of it having it be brought right
00:11:04.399 back to those words in the Bible was
00:11:07.120 just just fantastic.
00:11:08.800 >> Absolutely. with the bones what we’re
00:11:11.040 we’re doing and Jack already he has a
00:11:13.279 pretty sizable collection of fossils a
00:11:15.680 private collection that he has and so he
00:11:18.160 has them there and he is creating a
00:11:21.839 fossil museum in portion of it as well.
00:11:24.640 >> Yeah. And so if you have a school and
00:11:27.120 you have a science class that wants to
00:11:29.279 come out and feel the bones and have
00:11:31.360 Jack talk about the bones, the fossils,
00:11:34.320 we would love to have you.
00:11:35.920 >> Right. So, we’ve got concerts, we’ve got
00:11:37.760 open mic nights, we’ve got the fossils,
00:11:40.640 just a lot of different opportunities
00:11:42.160 there. And and you’re right, it has been
00:11:44.480 very fulfilling to open that place, to
00:11:49.120 have people come in, to have worship
00:11:51.120 nights there and feel like,
00:11:53.519 >> yeah, this is why we’re we’re doing what
00:11:55.680 we’re doing with the law firm. Yeah.
00:11:57.200 This is why we’re working as hard as we
00:11:59.839 are earning the money that we’re earning
00:12:02.160 is because that’s how you spread the
00:12:06.000 kingdom of God.
00:12:07.200 >> But let’s be real, it hasn’t been
00:12:08.880 without stress.
00:12:11.760 >> Yeah. Well, that’s the other thing is is
00:12:13.760 we got to a point where we realized,
00:12:17.839 yeah, it takes a lot of money to run
00:12:19.519 this place and
00:12:20.880 >> and time
00:12:21.680 >> and time and we’re doing it. And we were
00:12:25.839 a little naive about it at first. I
00:12:29.440 would say that we were just saying,
00:12:31.279 "Okay, we’re going to open the doors and
00:12:32.959 and it’s just going to happen." But we
00:12:34.639 realized we actually have to run it a
00:12:37.360 little bit like a business and we know
00:12:38.880 how to run a business from the law firm.
00:12:40.720 So, we have to put that into play with
00:12:43.040 the nonprofit ministry as well.
00:12:45.360 >> Definitely. And it’s a challenge for me,
00:12:49.760 you know, trying to run and do all the
00:12:52.000 marketing for the law firm and then run
00:12:55.279 that. And, you know, there’s
00:12:57.040 expectations.
00:12:58.240 >> Yeah. You feel a lot of the burden for
00:13:00.079 both of those.
00:13:00.959 >> Yes. Absolutely. So, I only tend to show
00:13:04.639 the highlight reels as we all do on
00:13:07.200 social media. And
00:13:10.320 you know, behind the scenes, I’ve really
00:13:12.639 had to hold Jesus’s hand and walk on
00:13:14.639 water and just trust trust him in so
00:13:17.279 many ways and trust in a way where
00:13:22.399 if God chose something that I’m not
00:13:25.680 expecting, which I should never say the
00:13:28.480 word failure because it’s it’s only God
00:13:32.160 changing our direction,
00:13:33.839 >> right?
00:13:34.639 >> And you just have to trust that
00:13:36.480 direction. But it’s very humbling for me
00:13:39.760 because I’ve always been someone that
00:13:41.680 can take something and make it into
00:13:43.839 something. And with the nonprofit,
00:13:47.440 it’s really waiting on God to show me
00:13:49.680 what he wants. And there’s been a lot of
00:13:52.560 trial and error.
00:13:54.800 What is Tones and Bones? Is it a youth
00:13:56.959 center? Is it a an event center? Are you
00:13:59.760 renting it out? And it’s kind of been
00:14:01.920 morphing. And we’ve had people that have
00:14:03.839 worked there that don’t work there
00:14:04.959 anymore. We are constantly
00:14:09.440 changing up how we advertise. And
00:14:14.240 honestly, I
00:14:17.199 have had to build my faith
00:14:22.160 more in the last year and a half than
00:14:25.360 before we ever opened it. It sounds all
00:14:28.079 nice and good, right?
00:14:30.000 Oh, we’re just going to go open this
00:14:32.160 nonprofit and give it to the world and
00:14:34.480 they’re all going to come in and there’s
00:14:36.079 bunnies and birds and all of these, you
00:14:39.040 know, what is that? Snow White. Is that
00:14:41.199 Snow White? Sleeping Beauty. These birds
00:14:44.000 are
00:14:45.519 and I’m going in and flowing and just
00:14:48.240 people are like, "Hey, look at her.
00:14:50.399 She’s got it all together." Well, I do
00:14:53.120 not.
00:14:53.760 >> Right.
00:14:54.480 >> Far from it.
00:14:55.360 >> Right.
00:14:55.760 >> Far from it. Well, like you said, life
00:14:57.920 life is messy. Building this nonprofit
00:15:00.800 has been messy. Building the law firm
00:15:02.720 has been messy at times. And then we’ve
00:15:05.120 got our family as well, which is another
00:15:07.600 aspect that we’re planning on talking
00:15:09.360 about here as well.
00:15:10.560 >> Well, it gets hard, too, because you
00:15:12.000 have the voices in your head because
00:15:13.360 when we first started it, there were
00:15:14.800 people out there that are like, "Why did
00:15:16.880 God pick her? She’s not as good as the
00:15:18.639 Bible as me. Why would There’s so much
00:15:21.120 anger and jealousy and it has been
00:15:23.680 directed towards me." And it’s not just
00:15:25.600 me. I’m not the only one. I believe that
00:15:27.680 anybody that feels like they’re somebody
00:15:29.680 else is getting something that they wish
00:15:31.360 they had. And so those words, they don’t
00:15:34.880 understand. I don’t even believe that I
00:15:37.440 deserve that. Like why would God pick
00:15:40.560 me, right?
00:15:41.199 >> I don’t know. I don’t think that he
00:15:43.120 thinks I’m better than you. But God God
00:15:46.160 chooses all of us to do the things that
00:15:49.440 he knows will impact
00:15:51.920 his kingdom
00:15:54.000 through me. for what however he can
00:15:56.800 envision that.
00:15:57.680 >> Well, and it was it was shocking and a
00:16:00.000 little bit of frustrating too as to
00:16:02.079 where those voices were coming from
00:16:03.920 >> from other Christians.
00:16:04.880 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:05.759 >> Yeah.
00:16:06.399 >> Shouldn’t we really be building up other
00:16:08.480 Christians no matter what they’re doing
00:16:10.480 for the kingdom?
00:16:12.000 >> You would think, but there’s a lot of
00:16:14.720 jealousy.
00:16:15.440 >> As with anything, there is this why not
00:16:19.199 me. You know, you ever see is that up
00:16:22.160 where they walk, up where they
00:16:24.399 something? What’s that movie
00:16:26.160 >> you’re talking about? The Little
00:16:27.120 Mermaid.
00:16:27.759 >> Yes. And all those birds going mine,
00:16:30.000 mine, mine mine.
00:16:30.800 >> That’s a different movie alto together.
00:16:32.720 That’s That’s Finding Nemo.
00:16:36.160 >> That’s that.
00:16:37.440 >> There goes that parameopause brain. Or
00:16:39.519 it could be the
00:16:40.000 >> blind. That’s the seagulls in Finding
00:16:43.040 Nemo.
00:16:46.399 >> At least at least you stuck within
00:16:48.160 Disney movies. So, you’re in the right
00:16:50.560 genre,
00:16:52.560 >> but it’s it’s I I noticed that it’s so
00:16:55.600 much mind mind. Yeah.
00:16:58.800 >> That’s why even part of me we’ve we’ve
00:17:01.920 recorded and practiced a few of the uh
00:17:05.839 podcasts and
00:17:08.640 I’ve watched myself talk and I’ve
00:17:11.439 thought,
00:17:12.959 why would anyone want to listen to me?
00:17:15.679 You know, and that’s that’s some people
00:17:17.599 would say, well, why would you say that?
00:17:19.919 Because I do all the things that I do
00:17:21.839 because I enjoy them. I do all the
00:17:23.919 things that I do because I want to do
00:17:25.760 them. I do the things for the law firm,
00:17:29.679 for our family, for the nonprofit, for
00:17:31.840 God, because I always want to be a
00:17:34.480 better me. I always want to be doing
00:17:37.840 more. I always say, I’ll rest when I’m
00:17:39.919 dead, right? Even though I do need to
00:17:41.840 take some more time to rest. hopefully
00:17:44.000 we can share with you. And for people
00:17:45.919 that are younger than us, I hope that
00:17:47.440 you can learn something from us. Not
00:17:48.880 that older people can’t learn from us. I
00:17:51.600 just maybe that’s me feeling like if
00:17:55.039 you’re older, you know more than me.
00:17:56.400 >> Yeah. Well, I feel like this is a great
00:17:58.559 platform for you in particular. I I feel
00:18:01.919 like you have the ability to inspire
00:18:05.679 people uh with a lot of your stories, a
00:18:08.480 lot of what you’ve been through, a lot
00:18:09.760 of what you have to say. I mean, just,
00:18:12.160 you know, for example, posts that you’ll
00:18:14.640 make on on social media. You just the
00:18:16.880 other day, you were talking about the
00:18:18.080 busyiness, and you just the other day
00:18:20.799 made this beautiful post on on Facebook
00:18:24.640 about how people pride themselves in how
00:18:28.960 they stay busy. And you did that on
00:18:33.039 Sunday when it was a day that is one of
00:18:36.320 the rare occasions. We actually didn’t
00:18:38.799 have anything going on and we were
00:18:42.960 relaxing and actually feeling a little
00:18:45.600 guilty about it at the time.
00:18:47.280 >> Well, I don’t feel guilty because I
00:18:48.720 think people are going to judge me. I
00:18:49.840 feel guilty because I have so much on my
00:18:51.360 plate and I feel like if I’m not moving
00:18:55.280 and doing something
00:18:57.440 then
00:18:59.760 it’s not going to get done
00:19:01.039 >> right
00:19:01.440 >> and I’m not going to be moving which is
00:19:04.160 silly because it’s you know my met my my
00:19:07.440 herbs
00:19:10.400 >> what are you even talking about your
00:19:12.799 herbs
00:19:14.880 >> my herbs can wait
00:19:17.280 >> what does that even
00:19:20.880 I was cleaning out the spice cabinet.
00:19:24.799 It’s herbs
00:19:27.679 or is it herb?
00:19:32.240 >> It’s herbs. Unless you’re from I don’t
00:19:34.559 know Europe and then maybe it’s herbs.
00:19:36.880 But I’m not sure why herbs and herbs are
00:19:40.720 coming up right
00:19:43.280 like urban. Ah, I don’t know.
00:19:45.840 We were I cleaned out my my herb
00:19:47.919 cabinet.
00:19:49.039 >> We got rid of expired spices in the
00:19:52.480 cabinet.
00:19:53.200 >> Hey, what was the oldest one in there?
00:19:56.000 >> Proud to say 2015.
00:19:59.520 >> Man, that was some delicious. What was
00:20:01.360 it? Do you even remember?
00:20:02.640 >> Uh, it was cayenne pepper. So,
00:20:04.400 >> see, and and people are like, and you
00:20:06.720 feel guilty for not being busy. Clearly,
00:20:08.720 I was not busy enough to get rid of that
00:20:10.320 2015 cayenne pepper.
00:20:14.000 So anyway, getting back to your post
00:20:16.000 about being busy.
00:20:17.280 >> I had other posts, too.
00:20:18.559 >> Yeah. But for that one, you post like
00:20:22.160 daily.
00:20:23.840 >> I posted I posted about our skin and how
00:20:27.440 there’s a double standard with men and
00:20:29.440 women. We can get into it. I mean, it is
00:20:32.000 the first podcast.
00:20:33.039 >> I know.
00:20:34.000 >> How come men think that women’s breasts
00:20:38.880 should not eventually sag if they’re
00:20:40.720 naturally large?
00:20:41.919 >> Right. your ball side.
00:20:43.679 >> Thank you.
00:20:44.640 >> And you know what? Just because we’re
00:20:46.240 Christian doesn’t mean we can’t talk
00:20:47.679 about sex. We can’t talk about our
00:20:50.559 bodies. That’s that’s ridiculous,
00:20:53.039 >> right?
00:20:53.440 >> If you’re Christian and you’re not
00:20:55.200 having sex with your spouse, there’s a
00:20:57.200 problem,
00:20:57.600 >> right? You can talk about the subject in
00:21:00.080 a loving Christian way.
00:21:01.200 >> Why am I not being loving and Christian?
00:21:02.720 >> No, you are.
00:21:03.360 >> Oh, thank you.
00:21:04.880 >> I was just backing you up.
00:21:07.440 >> So,
00:21:08.640 >> I don’t know. But you you kind of threw
00:21:10.640 that out there and that’s that’s it. You
00:21:13.120 can’t just stop there for that
00:21:15.360 conversation. So let’s talk about
00:21:18.240 breasts and balls and that’s the end of
00:21:20.080 it. That’s you have to go into what you
00:21:22.880 posted and what the whole thought
00:21:24.640 process was with why you were posting
00:21:26.559 that.
00:21:27.039 >> Okay. So, the whole reason I posted is
00:21:30.640 because I went on Instagram that’s that
00:21:33.039 morning and I don’t know about you, but
00:21:35.760 I am tired of seeing everything is TNA.
00:21:40.880 I go on there and there’s a boob in my
00:21:43.039 face. There’s a butt. There’s some guy
00:21:46.400 painting with his wiener. Like, I am
00:21:48.880 literally sick of seeing I’m sick of
00:21:52.320 seeing the nudity. It’s like everything
00:21:54.960 doesn’t have to be about nudity and
00:21:57.039 everything’s about just being plastic
00:21:59.760 and not being real. And I’m just tired
00:22:03.919 of that. Like I feel like we are
00:22:06.960 creating a generation
00:22:09.840 that will be addicted to fake AI images,
00:22:14.000 fakeness,
00:22:15.520 not even knowing, you know, half the
00:22:17.919 women that you not half, a lot of the
00:22:19.760 women that you see on there that are so
00:22:21.120 plasticy aren’t even women,
00:22:23.120 >> right? They’re
00:22:25.120 a trans, you know, right?
00:22:26.960 >> You don’t even know what you’re getting
00:22:28.480 into anymore, right?
00:22:29.600 >> I would never want to be single in 19
00:22:31.440 years old.
00:22:32.000 >> I absolutely
00:22:33.360 >> I fear I fear for the younger
00:22:36.559 generation,
00:22:37.280 >> right?
00:22:37.600 >> And you know what? If that’s your deal,
00:22:39.280 that’s your deal. I’m not judging you.
00:22:41.679 You do you, boo.
00:22:43.760 >> I am sick of everything being sexually
00:22:46.640 motivated.
00:22:47.440 >> Well, let’s be honest. I it’s it’s all a
00:22:51.120 gateway
00:22:52.640 to porn
00:22:55.360 and an addiction in porn and it’s a
00:22:57.679 gateway to pulling people away from God.
00:23:03.360 >> Absolutely.
00:23:05.600 >> It doesn’t even mean that Christians
00:23:07.440 aren’t addicted to porn. Isn’t it like
00:23:09.120 over 50% of all pastors have a porn
00:23:11.440 addiction?
00:23:12.000 >> Something like that. Something like that
00:23:13.679 is what we heard. And I and I think that
00:23:15.360 it’s because
00:23:17.760 everyone is performing. There’s so much
00:23:20.480 performing,
00:23:21.360 >> right?
00:23:21.679 >> They don’t know what they’re going to be
00:23:22.640 when they grow up. They they just pick
00:23:24.640 something and then someone tells them
00:23:26.480 they have to do this. And so there’s so
00:23:28.960 much performing. So they assume
00:23:30.480 everyone’s performing and a lot of
00:23:32.320 people are and there’s just so much
00:23:33.600 fakeness in this world. And that’s why I
00:23:35.840 want to come on here and just be real. I
00:23:38.640 want to show you real life. I want to
00:23:40.799 show you past the highlight reels. I
00:23:43.039 want to show you what real people are
00:23:45.919 doing. And I’m probably going to get a
00:23:48.080 lot of bad comments, which I won’t look
00:23:50.000 at. I don’t I don’t care.
00:23:53.280 I don’t know what I’ll get, but I’m
00:23:55.039 going to let somebody else read the
00:23:56.400 comments.
00:23:57.200 >> But this is me. This is you. This is our
00:23:59.280 lives. And I want to shed some light on
00:24:02.320 how we think truly, not what other
00:24:05.760 people are saying we think. You know,
00:24:07.600 some people have said that I think I’m
00:24:09.440 better than everybody else. I actually
00:24:11.200 don’t. I think that everybody else is
00:24:14.400 smarter than me. I actually put everyone
00:24:16.960 else on a pedestal and I
00:24:20.559 have had lots of insecurities growing
00:24:22.720 up.
00:24:23.520 >> Yeah. You’re you’re very very humble in
00:24:26.960 who you are and your outward appearance
00:24:30.080 throws people off and they make snap
00:24:32.080 judgments about you.
00:24:33.279 >> Well, my outward appearance is please
00:24:35.520 like me. I’m going to do my hair. I’m
00:24:37.279 gonna do my makeup. So that there’s
00:24:39.679 nothing you can like judge me for
00:24:42.400 because I’m so insecure in that sense,
00:24:45.120 >> right?
00:24:45.600 >> Where I want you to know like I respect
00:24:49.120 you. I’m going to dress up for you. I’m
00:24:51.440 going to be respectful to you. I want to
00:24:53.919 give to you. I
00:24:56.159 I genuinely put people above me. And so
00:25:00.720 it’s very heartbreaking for me when I
00:25:05.440 hear other people having opinions about
00:25:08.480 me and I’m like, whoa, that’s not even
00:25:13.039 anywhere in my heart,
00:25:14.559 >> right?
00:25:14.960 >> And so I think that that happens to
00:25:16.240 other people, too.
00:25:16.960 >> It would have to. It would absolutely
00:25:18.960 have to.
00:25:19.520 >> I think that there’s so much
00:25:23.520 >> animosity and anger and and and the
00:25:25.919 world is divided in our country. We
00:25:27.679 already know the world is divided. I
00:25:29.360 mean, our country is divided and there’s
00:25:31.760 just so much
00:25:35.120 foolery with the AI and
00:25:39.760 with movies and
00:25:43.760 you know, you look at girls and here’s
00:25:45.200 this thing that’s people are like, "Oh,
00:25:47.039 what do 50 year olds look like? I’ll be
00:25:49.039 52 in August."
00:25:51.360 But there’s all these filters and
00:25:53.760 there’s all this surgery and there’s all
00:25:55.600 these things and either people that want
00:25:59.520 to do that, they’re so conceited and how
00:26:02.240 dare they do that and then the people
00:26:04.159 that don’t want to do it, they’re
00:26:06.320 judging them and there’s why can’t we
00:26:08.799 all just be happy with who we are and do
00:26:10.799 our own thing? And that’s where I want
00:26:13.360 that’s something that I want to show
00:26:14.960 you. This is who we are. I want to tell
00:26:18.080 you stories. I want to show you who we
00:26:19.919 are. I hope you can laugh. I hope you
00:26:22.880 can get encouragement. I hope you can
00:26:26.320 learn some things about how we gain
00:26:28.960 strength through the Bible. And realize
00:26:32.159 we are imperfect, too.
00:26:33.600 >> Yeah. And that you’re not alone.
00:26:35.120 >> Absolutely.
00:26:35.679 >> Everybody’s going through things.
00:26:37.360 Everybody is going through a lot of the
00:26:40.080 same things.
00:26:41.520 >> And and we need to build each other up.
00:26:44.159 We need to help each other. And this
00:26:47.120 platform, this podcast is hopefully our
00:26:51.679 way of helping that along.
00:26:53.360 >> Absolutely.
00:26:54.960 And just being silly cuz I like being
00:26:57.760 silly.
00:27:01.200 >> That’s you’re You know what? I say the
00:27:04.080 taboo things.
00:27:05.360 >> I say anything.
00:27:06.320 >> I do. I You know what? I don’t know. I
00:27:08.880 don’t know. Like I think of something
00:27:12.000 and I’m like, "Oh, don’t say it. Don’t
00:27:14.480 say it. And I was like, it just comes
00:27:17.760 out.
00:27:18.240 >> There’s There was actually a time where
00:27:20.159 we went out with friends and you just
00:27:22.960 kept randomly just saying things and I
00:27:26.159 finally said to you, "Okay, before you
00:27:27.840 say it out loud, whispered in my ear,
00:27:30.400 let me filter you first. I’ll let you
00:27:32.080 know if it’s okay to say."
00:27:33.520 >> Well, what happens is I’ll say something
00:27:35.760 and then I’ll realize it sounded weird.
00:27:37.840 So then I try to correct it and then I
00:27:40.240 dig a hole. You just start talking more
00:27:42.400 and more and more
00:27:43.120 >> and you’re like, "Babe, stop."
00:27:44.400 >> Yeah. Just stop.
00:27:45.360 >> It just gets worse and worse than when
00:27:47.039 you talk at that point.
00:27:50.240 >> But I don’t mean anything bad.
00:27:52.080 >> Oh, no.
00:27:53.120 >> Like one time I think I thought I think
00:27:54.880 I said, "Oh, he’s definitely taller than
00:27:57.200 Ken." And everyone’s like And I’m like,
00:28:00.240 "Oh, I didn’t mean that like Ken’s
00:28:01.840 short. I mean, he’s shorter than him."
00:28:03.919 And you’re like, "Just stop while you’re
00:28:05.760 ahead." And I’m like, "No, but I just I
00:28:08.559 was meaning like it’s not that I’m not
00:28:10.240 attracted to him being shorter. Megan,
00:28:12.399 just stop." I’m like, "But you’re so
00:28:15.520 handsome." So,
00:28:21.120 and look, I just want to be clear. I
00:28:23.440 actually I was not stifling what you
00:28:25.919 were saying. I just thought it was funny
00:28:27.200 to say that, to tell you to filter it
00:28:28.960 through me. I just I love how you just
00:28:31.600 randomly say things.
00:28:33.039 >> Everybody does. Part of your charm. I
00:28:34.960 can’t wait to listen to Megan. Just I
00:28:37.440 give everyone ammo. That’s what I say. I
00:28:39.360 go, you know what? People probably leave
00:28:41.520 my house, especially the kids friends,
00:28:43.120 are like, "Guess what Megan said today."
00:28:45.279 >> Right?
00:28:46.880 >> I am. I’m just an open book and I’m
00:28:49.360 always overexplaining myself. But I
00:28:51.760 think I have to because there’s so many
00:28:53.200 people that take things out of context
00:28:56.080 about who I am and what I’m about. You
00:28:58.880 know, I’m about
00:29:03.279 all these things that we’re talking
00:29:04.640 about.
00:29:05.279 >> Yes. Yes.
00:29:06.559 >> I’m one of those weird people that if
00:29:08.159 you came to my house and you went into
00:29:10.559 my closet and you’re like, oh, I love
00:29:13.520 those shoes and they could be Gucci. And
00:29:15.840 if I’m like, okay, you can have them.
00:29:18.320 People like, why why would you do that?
00:29:20.159 Are you trying to buy them? Are you
00:29:21.840 trying to manipulate them? No. Like,
00:29:23.760 legit, I own my things. My things don’t
00:29:25.840 own me. And if I had everything taken
00:29:28.799 away from me, either a I’d be like,
00:29:30.880 "Okay, I guess this is where I’m at." Or
00:29:32.480 I go and make it again. I’m not a
00:29:34.480 victim. And so that’s something that we
00:29:37.520 talk about a lot is I’m not a victim. So
00:29:42.799 I have compassion for people that are
00:29:45.039 victims, but I also want to give you a
00:29:47.760 hand to pull up. I want to help you. And
00:29:52.480 that’s the type of person I am.
00:29:54.480 >> Right? victimhood or being a victim is
00:29:57.679 something that happens to you, but it’s
00:29:59.919 not a place that you stay.
00:30:01.360 >> Absolutely not. I believe that
00:30:04.960 everybody has a time I’ve been there.
00:30:07.919 I’ve been on food stamps. I’ve been to
00:30:11.360 the point where I didn’t want to be on
00:30:12.799 this earth anymore. And we can get all
00:30:14.640 into that during this podcast. But I
00:30:18.640 want to be here to encourage other
00:30:20.399 people. You are braver than you think
00:30:22.159 you are. You are smarter than you think
00:30:24.960 you are. You are more creative than you
00:30:27.279 think you are. And today is not going to
00:30:30.399 be what five years from now is. So don’t
00:30:32.559 give up. And I I want to be that voice
00:30:34.720 for people. I’ve been there. I’ve been
00:30:36.559 at probably every crazy stage you can
00:30:39.600 imagine in my life.
00:30:41.919 >> You have.
00:30:43.039 >> I’m a scrappy girl.
00:30:46.960 Are you going to get scrappy Megan or
00:30:48.720 Christian Megan?
00:30:50.880 >> Sometimes you get
00:30:51.679 >> scrappy Christian. Sometimes you get
00:30:53.360 both.
00:30:54.640 >> But yeah, no, I I have had a lot of time
00:30:59.760 to think. I’m a deep thinker. But if I
00:31:02.480 expect you to do something like if I
00:31:05.520 expect you to be a truthful person, I
00:31:07.520 expect that of myself.
00:31:09.200 >> Yeah. Well, generally you’re already
00:31:11.039 doing it yourself. And so you’ll you’ll
00:31:14.000 explain those are your expectations. And
00:31:16.080 you’re all about truth and honesty. And
00:31:19.760 again, you are an open book.
00:31:21.360 >> Yeah. So, I hope through this podcast we
00:31:24.480 can share stories about me being an open
00:31:27.760 book getting me in trouble, right?
00:31:29.840 >> Cases with the law firm that we decide
00:31:33.360 together and I’m like, "Oh, hell no.
00:31:36.240 We’re not taking that."
00:31:41.360 >> So, um, are you happy?
00:31:46.720 >> That’s a loaded question.
00:31:49.200 Am I happy with with what? I’m happy.
00:31:52.559 Yes. In general, I’m very happy.
00:31:54.240 >> You are? Tell me. Tell me why.
00:31:56.240 >> I feel immensely blessed. I feel blessed
00:32:01.840 with
00:32:04.559 having you in my life, having the kids.
00:32:08.080 I feel like God is blessing us with all
00:32:12.000 that we do because he knows our hearts
00:32:15.360 and where our we’re putting our effort.
00:32:18.559 And
00:32:20.960 like you said, I’ve gotten to the point,
00:32:22.640 it’s taken me a long time to get there,
00:32:24.559 but I’ve gotten to the point as well
00:32:26.080 where I believe that if everything was
00:32:28.799 taking taken away that
00:32:32.960 we would not wallow in it. we would
00:32:36.799 realize
00:32:38.640 we’ll do it again.
00:32:41.039 We have our faith in God. God will get
00:32:43.200 us through and we have built everything
00:32:46.960 that we have from nothing. We’ve both
00:32:49.440 lost a lot in the past.
00:32:51.760 >> And what we’ve built now, we built
00:32:53.519 together. And as long as we have God, as
00:32:56.480 long as we have each other, we can do
00:32:58.640 it.
00:32:59.120 >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I remember those
00:33:00.720 $80 a week budget.
00:33:02.559 >> Yep. You told me we have $80 a week and
00:33:05.200 you had a hole in your sock.
00:33:06.799 >> Yeah.
00:33:07.760 >> You didn’t cut your toenail, so it was
00:33:09.120 this big old long toenail.
00:33:11.679 Just kidding. That sounds so gross.
00:33:14.559 >> That did sound gross.
00:33:16.000 >> But we had an $80 a week budget for
00:33:18.640 food, gas.
00:33:20.000 >> Yeah.
00:33:20.799 >> And I I had this I was so proud of
00:33:22.559 myself. I had this little app on my
00:33:24.399 phone and you know you put in the
00:33:26.640 groceries and I was doing a lot of
00:33:30.000 cooking in
00:33:31.279 >> clipping coupons. You had a lot of
00:33:33.840 coupons that you were clipping.
00:33:36.559 >> You did it. You clipped them.
00:33:38.240 >> Yeah. A lot of them never got used
00:33:39.919 though cuz I’m kind of add I forget it
00:33:42.080 at home and then I get there and I’m
00:33:44.000 like, "Oh, I’ll just buy the generic
00:33:46.159 version." They say the generic version
00:33:48.559 is actually the regular version, but
00:33:50.559 they just put a generic label on it.
00:33:52.080 Have you heard of that?
00:33:53.440 >> That sounds like something I’ve heard.
00:33:55.120 Yeah.
00:33:58.320 >> No generics here at Cross-examine with
00:34:00.399 the Gerbers, though.
00:34:01.519 >> We’re the original Gerbers.
00:34:04.159 >> Well, actually, I’m not an original
00:34:05.279 Gerber. I’m original Burke from the
00:34:08.239 south side of Chicago.
00:34:10.399 >> And we have lots of stories about you in
00:34:12.320 Chicago, too.
00:34:13.440 >> Oh, yeah. That’s that’s my old stomping
00:34:16.639 ground.
00:34:18.560 B96 dance party with DJ Jazzy Jeff. No,
00:34:22.560 I don’t know if that was
00:34:23.119 >> I don’t think it was DJ Jazzy Jeff in my
00:34:25.040 opinion.
00:34:25.599 >> No, no, that’s that’s Fresh Prince and
00:34:28.719 DJ Jazzy Jeff
00:34:29.839 >> where you dance your heart’s content and
00:34:32.000 then you like I remember being so
00:34:34.480 excited to go to those dance parties
00:34:36.960 because I’d wear my Zcavaricis
00:34:40.320 aging me. I’d wear my Zcavriciis and I’d
00:34:43.359 get there and I dance so much that they
00:34:46.480 were loose when I left.
00:34:48.879 And I thought I lost like a 100 pounds.
00:34:52.480 Like,
00:34:54.960 it takes you to make a thing go right.
00:34:58.800 It takes you to make it out of sight. DJ
00:35:02.720 Jeff. I don’t know. Making that name up.
00:35:05.440 >> Yeah. Well, but I like to watch you
00:35:07.040 dance, too.
00:35:08.160 >> I love dancing. I remember this one
00:35:10.160 time. Okay, this is just going to be a a
00:35:13.920 little side story. So, there was a place
00:35:17.119 called The Brickyard outside Southside
00:35:19.680 of Chicago. It was like in Oklahoma. I
00:35:22.160 can’t remember what city.
00:35:22.880 >> Is it like a bar?
00:35:23.839 >> Yeah. No. Well, you could be under 21 to
00:35:26.960 go there. So, in Chicago, they have they
00:35:29.520 had all of these places where you could
00:35:32.720 go to like a Holiday Inn or you could go
00:35:36.160 to a bar where on that night it’s like a
00:35:39.119 Thursday. They don’t have the bar open
00:35:41.280 but just for regular like sodas and then
00:35:45.040 you go there and you dance. Mind you,
00:35:47.599 there’s no cell phones. It’s only
00:35:50.480 landline. And my dad is chief of police
00:35:53.119 of Tinley Park at the time. So he’s
00:35:55.280 like, "You girls watch each other. You
00:35:57.040 girls be careful." Which I get like, you
00:35:59.359 know, at the time it was like, "Okay."
00:36:02.240 So we go there and there’s this bouncer
00:36:04.640 and I take my sister and I’m probably
00:36:08.320 Was
00:36:09.920 I? Yeah, I was 17. So, I I drove there
00:36:14.000 and my sister, she’s like a bucking
00:36:16.480 bronco and she’s like, "You can’t
00:36:17.839 control me." So, she’s she left with the
00:36:20.240 bouncer.
00:36:22.160 I let her go with she’s like, "I’m not
00:36:24.000 going with you." And you know how my
00:36:25.359 sister is.
00:36:27.119 Sorry, sister.
00:36:29.119 But she has a mind of her own and she
00:36:31.119 was definitely not coming home with me.
00:36:33.119 And she was like 14 or 15. And I get
00:36:36.400 home and it’s 1 in the morning and my
00:36:38.960 dad’s like, "Where’s your sister?"
00:36:42.240 Oh, she left with some bouncer.
00:36:45.760 She what? She left with some bouncer.
00:36:49.359 Who? I no idea. Wait, what was his name?
00:36:54.720 No idea.
00:36:57.040 Where does he live? No idea. So,
00:37:00.240 literally my sister left with some
00:37:01.920 stranger. She made it home because she’s
00:37:04.960 alive and well today,
00:37:06.320 >> right?
00:37:06.800 >> However, I couldn’t enjoy
00:37:09.920 me feeling skinnier because I was in
00:37:11.520 trouble when I got home.
00:37:12.400 >> Yeah, I’m sure you got in a lot of
00:37:13.359 trouble.
00:37:13.599 >> Oh, I got in a lot of trouble. That girl
00:37:15.359 got me in a lot of trouble all the time.
00:37:17.119 I used to want to sneak out. I was one
00:37:18.960 of those sneaker outers. And then she’d
00:37:21.680 find out that I was sneaking out and she
00:37:24.720 would be like, "You’re bringing me with
00:37:26.400 you or I’m telling mom and dad." I was
00:37:28.480 like, "Dang it."
00:37:29.280 >> Blackmail.
00:37:30.079 >> Fine. I will bring you, but you can’t.
00:37:32.960 We used to drink, right? This is We’re
00:37:34.880 talking the 80s, early 90s. 91 I
00:37:38.000 graduated from high school. So, we’d go
00:37:40.000 to my friend’s house. She’d be off
00:37:42.800 drinking. I remember this one time. So,
00:37:45.359 we had a raised ranch. I don’t know if
00:37:46.720 you know what that is. Where it’s like
00:37:48.160 this long house and then it has these
00:37:50.640 windows to go down into the basement.
00:37:53.200 Well, I used to crawl out of my window,
00:37:56.480 leave footprints. My dad asked me why
00:37:57.920 are there footprints and I said I was
00:37:59.119 practicing for a fire drill which was a
00:38:00.960 lie. And then we I go back in in that
00:38:05.119 little small window
00:38:07.680 and she got drunk and it was raining and
00:38:11.119 that’s where my mom planted her garden.
00:38:13.359 So I had to have someone else help me
00:38:15.440 push her through the window.
00:38:18.400 Muddy pants and all. We got I got
00:38:21.839 inside. I pulled her down and then for
00:38:25.599 some reason I heard my mom up and I
00:38:27.599 said, "Hurry up. Take your pants off and
00:38:29.280 put them behind the dining room chairs."
00:38:31.440 I don’t know why.
00:38:33.280 >> Great plan.
00:38:34.079 >> We left our muddy jeans behind the
00:38:37.040 dining room chairs. And I don’t know if
00:38:39.200 you guys remember or if you’re old
00:38:41.599 enough or if this is something from the
00:38:43.520 Midwest or whatever, there was a room
00:38:46.240 that was vacuumed perfectly that you
00:38:49.599 were not allowed to enter. Did you have
00:38:51.680 that room, Ken?
00:38:52.560 >> Yeah, the the the living room with the
00:38:54.240 white carpet.
00:38:55.280 >> It was like the perfect, you know, the
00:38:57.280 perfect It wasn’t the front room. Was it
00:38:59.520 the front room?
00:39:00.320 >> Yeah, we didn’t have those down in
00:39:01.520 Florida.
00:39:01.760 >> You didn’t have a front room?
00:39:02.640 >> No.
00:39:03.280 >> And so in the Midwest, you had a front
00:39:04.880 room. And this like the dining room area
00:39:08.400 that you walk in, front door, the in the
00:39:11.280 vacuum was like like perfect lines.
00:39:14.320 Well, I had her throw her pants in there
00:39:17.200 behind the beautiful chair. And my mom’s
00:39:20.240 like, "Why are there muddy pants behind
00:39:22.880 the chair?" And then, of course, I got
00:39:25.839 grounded. She’s an innocent child who
00:39:29.200 went with me and I got grounded.
00:39:31.839 >> You drugg her through the mud.
00:39:34.800 >> She forced me because I was sneaking out
00:39:37.520 without her.
00:39:38.560 >> It’s funny how that came back around.
00:39:42.560 >> H So, my kids get away with nothing now.
00:39:45.920 I’m I’m very much a helicopter parent,
00:39:48.400 but Skyla always defends me in that way.
00:39:50.560 So, we have two kids, 19 and
00:39:54.160 14. She’ll be 15. We actually have more
00:39:56.240 than that, which that’s a long story.
00:39:58.079 Ken has four boys from Florida that due
00:40:00.640 to parental alienation, we have not been
00:40:03.040 able to see, but we will get into that
00:40:05.280 subject and how that’s so awful for
00:40:07.359 parents and especially fathers.
00:40:10.160 >> Yeah. Another subject for another day.
00:40:12.079 >> Exactly. So,
00:40:14.720 she always defends me and says, "Mom,
00:40:16.880 you just care about protecting us, but
00:40:18.720 like you’re super cool. You let me make
00:40:20.800 food. You make, you know what I mean? In
00:40:22.400 other ways, I allow them to be very
00:40:24.720 independent and be themselves."
00:40:26.320 >> Yeah.
00:40:26.720 >> But anyways, I hope that, you know,
00:40:29.359 everybody enjoyed some of these stories
00:40:30.800 that we had.
00:40:31.760 >> Yeah. This hopefully is just a little
00:40:33.200 teaser of what’s to come and we’ll we’ll
00:40:36.240 have a lot more fun in the future.
00:40:38.320 >> Absolutely.
00:40:39.119 >> We’ll have some guests on at some point.
00:40:41.119 >> Yes. I would love to have local guests
00:40:43.119 and ask them like, "What is it like
00:40:45.119 owning a business? Do you find
00:40:47.920 these same instances that we do with
00:40:51.440 customers and funny stories?" Cuz I love
00:40:53.839 all those funny restaurant stories and
00:40:56.720 different things on TikTok, which you
00:40:58.079 don’t watch Tik Tok, but I do. And so
00:41:00.880 they’re like kind of making fun of the
00:41:03.680 people that come in and they’re like,
00:41:05.599 "Hi, can you fit me in even though I
00:41:07.520 don’t have a reservation and I want 86
00:41:09.359 people to be sat in the next 10
00:41:10.880 minutes?"
00:41:12.800 So hopefully we can have some stories
00:41:14.960 and have some fun.
00:41:16.319 >> Maybe we’ll just wind it up here for the
00:41:18.720 day and come back another time and do it
00:41:21.520 then.
00:41:22.480 >> Sounds great. Thank you for watching
00:41:24.400 Crossexamined with the Gerbers. Tune in
00:41:26.640 next time.