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Rage Bait, “Gay Sparkly Jesus,” Candace Owens Feud, Kirk Fallout, $140K Poor, Costco & Shack Drama

00:00:00.240 So, we just had Thanksgiving. So, is
00:00:04.080 your food coma over yet? So, are you the
00:00:08.960 type of people that put your leftovers
00:00:10.960 in Ziploc baggies?
00:00:13.100 [laughter]
00:00:13.759 >> We are.
00:00:15.599 I think Ken, we actually made turkey and
00:00:18.320 ham,
00:00:18.960 >> right?
00:00:19.680 >> And Ken yesterday was eating the ham and
00:00:22.320 I’m like, "Is it still good?" A
00:00:24.000 >> ham sandwich.
00:00:25.199 >> How long are leftovers still good?
00:00:27.119 >> I don’t know. I don’t know. But it the
00:00:29.199 the ham is precooked anyway and so it’s
00:00:31.679 meant to last a long time. So tasted
00:00:33.760 great. I loved it.
00:00:34.800 >> Well, I’m glad you it didn’t end you up
00:00:36.719 in the uh urgent care again.
00:00:38.640 >> Again, is the key word there. Thank you
00:00:40.480 very much.
00:00:41.680 >> Yeah. You had a little bit of gird from
00:00:43.200 overeating and we thought you were
00:00:44.399 having a heart issue there. They say
00:00:46.480 that Thanksgiving is the weekend that
00:00:48.079 most people end up in the ER, right?
00:00:50.079 >> Yeah. Yeah. Also the the biggest weekend
00:00:52.640 for uh domestic violence, too.
00:00:54.640 >> Oh, fabulous. I think that’s any
00:00:56.399 holiday.
00:00:56.960 >> We dodge that one. Well, we’re coming up
00:00:58.960 to Christmas now, too, where our credit
00:01:01.920 cards get more uh exercise than our
00:01:04.479 actual bodies. Except for you. You do
00:01:07.200 work out a lot.
00:01:08.080 >> Yeah,
00:01:08.320 >> I need to work out more.
00:01:09.760 >> Jack and I have been hitting the gym
00:01:11.280 almost daily.
00:01:12.159 >> Well, we need to throw some Christmas
00:01:14.240 glitter in there. [laughter]
00:01:18.240 So, um I’m excited about Christmas. I
00:01:21.119 love Christmas. It brings me so much
00:01:22.799 joy.
00:01:23.200 >> It’s It’s amazing. It’s great that you
00:01:26.000 love to decorate so much. Although the
00:01:27.920 decorating this year feels like it’s
00:01:29.840 gone on for weeks and weeks and weeks.
00:01:32.159 >> Well, because I I decided I was going to
00:01:35.360 do it a lot. I was like, I’m going to
00:01:37.360 take out everything. Anyone else like
00:01:39.119 that where you’re like this year I’m
00:01:40.880 doing it doing it like I want to go
00:01:42.960 through the old stuff that I have and
00:01:44.960 donate that and get my new stuff out cuz
00:01:47.840 I’m like Christmas threw up on my house
00:01:49.840 but in a nice pretty way.
00:01:51.840 >> Very elegant, very tasteful, just a lot
00:01:55.040 of it. And so we still have the boxes
00:01:57.520 from like a month ago out that we’re
00:01:59.520 planning on going through, but you just
00:02:02.640 get busy.
00:02:04.159 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:05.040 >> You just keep having other things
00:02:06.799 happen. But at least I’ve got a lot of
00:02:09.280 our shopping done.
00:02:10.959 >> That’s true.
00:02:11.920 >> That I’m grateful for.
00:02:13.520 >> The Amazon [clears throat] pile of boxes
00:02:15.520 is is huge as well. But we got it done.
00:02:18.640 But what’s cool is they’re coming out
00:02:20.480 with so many new things to buy for
00:02:23.920 family members where it just felt like
00:02:25.840 for guys, you were kind of stuck, right?
00:02:28.560 Like for for people that wear I wait
00:02:31.680 earpods,
00:02:33.280 they have this new skin, like the skin
00:02:36.080 that you can put on the ear pods.
00:02:38.640 >> Oh, to like decorate your your case. Oh,
00:02:41.519 okay.
00:02:41.840 >> Yeah. So, I thought that was kind of a
00:02:43.120 cool gift.
00:02:43.680 >> Yeah.
00:02:44.080 >> Have you gotten me anything yet, Ken?
00:02:45.760 >> I I did.
00:02:47.681 >> [laughter]
00:02:48.800 >> Oh, you already have it. You already
00:02:50.400 have it.
00:02:50.800 >> A new a new wedding band [laughter]
00:02:52.959 ring. Thank you. But there’s also some
00:02:56.160 really cool things if you guys are
00:02:57.440 looking for any interesting gifts that
00:02:59.440 you could do. Even in the valley,
00:03:00.800 there’s the experiences. We’ve been on
00:03:02.560 the hot air balloons before.
00:03:04.239 >> Yeah.
00:03:04.640 >> And right now is the time where you can
00:03:06.239 go out on them because when it’s hot
00:03:07.680 out, they don’t have the hot air. Well,
00:03:09.680 I don’t know. It’s probably because of a
00:03:12.959 flight. I’ve never looked at that. Is it
00:03:14.720 because they can’t get high enough?
00:03:16.080 Yeah, I think it has to do with the the
00:03:17.760 temperature of the air and this is the
00:03:19.599 perfect time for them. You go out first
00:03:21.120 thing in the morning. It’s actually
00:03:22.959 freezing cold when you first go out and
00:03:25.040 then they take you up real high so you
00:03:26.640 got to bundle up but it’s gorgeous this
00:03:28.800 time of year.
00:03:29.519 >> Oh, I literally love it. People are
00:03:31.440 scared. You were scared to go. There was
00:03:33.040 this like that comedian where he said,
00:03:34.799 you know, he’s scared to go and he’s
00:03:36.879 gripping onto the basket, right?
00:03:39.040 >> But it is a lot of fun and you don’t
00:03:40.560 feel it doesn’t feel super scary. It was
00:03:43.200 actually unbelievably serene. I mean,
00:03:46.159 the liftoff is just this real gentle
00:03:49.440 we’re going up and you don’t even really
00:03:51.120 feel it. It’s not even like a plane
00:03:52.640 where, you know, you you have that quick
00:03:54.720 take off and the drops and all that.
00:03:56.400 There’s none of that. It’s just
00:03:58.239 >> watching the ground just fade away.
00:04:00.640 >> And they have sunrise and sunset, which
00:04:02.239 is pretty cool, and can be romantic.
00:04:04.080 They have big baskets for a big family,
00:04:06.640 smaller baskets for maybe couples. I
00:04:10.560 love that comedian who you mentioned
00:04:12.159 that talks about going up in [laughter]
00:04:13.519 a hot air balloon. It’s such a great
00:04:16.000 >> We need to figure out his name. He’s so
00:04:17.600 funny.
00:04:18.320 >> Yeah. But he talks about going up in a
00:04:20.320 romantic hot air balloon. It’s you and
00:04:22.639 your your spouse or your significant
00:04:24.960 other and the guy who’s running the
00:04:26.960 balloon like that close to you.
00:04:29.208 [laughter]
00:04:30.320 >> Oh my gosh. But experiences are great.
00:04:32.479 They also have I love doing the spot the
00:04:35.840 omni.
00:04:36.479 >> Yeah.
00:04:36.960 >> At um Montello. Oh, is that the name of
00:04:40.240 the spa? We end up renting a room where
00:04:42.960 you can have two beds in there and you
00:04:45.440 get two massuses and then you spend
00:04:47.840 about 4 hours and you can have
00:04:51.759 >> lunch, a nap, drink, whatever. We do
00:04:54.080 that on our anniversary. That would be a
00:04:55.680 good couple’s gift.
00:04:56.880 >> Right. Right.
00:04:57.520 >> And then um I also was looking at
00:05:02.720 Glendale Glitters. So families that want
00:05:04.880 to go
00:05:05.440 >> We haven’t done that in years.
00:05:06.560 >> I know. And they have the best
00:05:08.160 chocolate,
00:05:08.880 >> right? [laughter]
00:05:09.840 Chocolate dipped cheesecake, if I
00:05:11.440 remember correctly.
00:05:12.080 >> The waistband again,
00:05:13.120 >> right? [laughter]
00:05:14.560 >> And um but hey, it’s holidays, right?
00:05:17.199 New Year’s res resolution is around the
00:05:19.120 corner. You can just work it off,
00:05:20.880 >> right?
00:05:21.360 >> And Zoo Lights, we were talking about
00:05:23.360 that this week. We were actually at the
00:05:24.880 Princess
00:05:25.840 >> at Scottsdale Fairmont,
00:05:27.199 >> and they do a great job.
00:05:28.560 >> They absolutely do. Their decorations
00:05:30.720 are really topn
00:05:32.880 >> and it’s geared towards every age
00:05:34.960 because you have all the really
00:05:37.600 beautiful big Christmas trees that I
00:05:40.479 think everybody can enjoy. But there’s a
00:05:42.479 section where it’s called glitzy land or
00:05:45.680 what? Uh
00:05:47.280 >> tinsel town.
00:05:48.080 >> Oh, tinsel town. [laughter]
00:05:50.800 Glitzy land. Tinsel town. [laughter] One
00:05:54.320 or the other. But they have a really
00:05:56.479 cool little train ride and the carousel.
00:06:00.160 >> One thing though that when we got there,
00:06:02.320 the line was forever. It was 60 minutes.
00:06:05.039 So they said if you can afford to get
00:06:06.560 the VIP, that way it especially if you
00:06:09.360 have a lot of kids and they’re going to
00:06:10.960 get antsy, you don’t want to sit there
00:06:13.039 waiting
00:06:14.160 >> for, you know, and you have to pick it
00:06:16.000 up when you get to the front.
00:06:17.360 >> Yeah. And also there’s the illumination
00:06:20.720 lights where if you don’t feel like I
00:06:23.520 think that’s the name of it, but it’s
00:06:25.360 really cool. We’ve gone to it many years
00:06:27.600 where you get in line, you don’t get out
00:06:29.039 of your car, so you don’t have to park
00:06:30.400 if you’re lazy like me. I hate parking
00:06:32.000 and walking to places, but you drive
00:06:34.960 through all of these lights that
00:06:38.240 >> world of illumination
00:06:39.520 >> and you put your radio station to the
00:06:44.319 You pull in, it’ll tell you what radio
00:06:45.840 station to go to.
00:06:46.720 >> Yeah. and it goes to Christmas music and
00:06:48.639 all the lights light up as the Christmas
00:06:51.039 song is playing.
00:06:51.919 >> Yeah,
00:06:52.240 >> it’s really cool. We a lot of people
00:06:54.240 open up their sunroof and they’re
00:06:55.680 sitting outside their sunroof. We don’t
00:06:57.440 recommend that as personal injury lawyer
00:07:00.000 group, but they do do it. You’re going
00:07:02.880 about 3 miles an hour. [laughter]
00:07:04.560 >> Right. Right. It’s fun. And I think it
00:07:07.120 got popular during COVID when people
00:07:08.960 were not getting out of their vehicles,
00:07:11.039 not interacting with other people and so
00:07:12.720 you just drive through. But it was such
00:07:14.720 a great experience. We did it for years
00:07:16.800 afterwards, too.
00:07:17.840 >> Oh, yeah. Definitely. That’s a That’s
00:07:20.240 definitely a lot of fun. My goal has
00:07:22.479 always been to go to New York to see the
00:07:24.400 Macy’s Day Parade, but
00:07:26.080 >> we have yet to do that.
00:07:27.360 >> I know. It’s okay. We’ll get there.
00:07:30.160 >> Is that going to end up being like uh
00:07:32.000 New York on New Year’s Eve where people
00:07:34.319 crowd in?
00:07:35.120 >> But what you do is you rent a hotel room
00:07:37.039 and you watch it from above.
00:07:38.880 >> Okay.
00:07:39.360 >> That way you get a hotel room, you can
00:07:41.440 watch it from above. You’re not outside.
00:07:43.120 You’re not uncomfortable. Cuz I’m not
00:07:44.479 all about diapers on New Year’s Eve. No.
00:07:46.639 >> Nothing. Nothing says sexy about New
00:07:48.639 Year’s Eve than a sexy dress and a big
00:07:50.400 fat diaper that you’ve [laughter] gone
00:07:52.240 bathroom all night long.
00:07:54.160 >> Imagine doing that. I would never want
00:07:55.840 to do [laughter] that.
00:07:57.120 >> No. It’s disgusting. And you know that
00:08:00.160 everybody else around you Well,
00:08:02.960 >> it probably smells like our cat room. We
00:08:05.120 have a specific cat room that the cats
00:08:07.039 go in and it’s probably
00:08:09.120 >> awful.
00:08:09.759 >> I’m not a fan of the cats right now.
00:08:11.840 >> No.
00:08:13.440 That probably brings us along to some
00:08:16.720 things going on in the country.
00:08:19.360 >> Yeah. So, did you hear this? That Oxford
00:08:22.639 dictionary every year declares their
00:08:24.879 word of the year. And so, the latest one
00:08:28.080 that they just declared is rage bait.
00:08:31.680 >> Yeah.
00:08:33.525 [gasps] You know, shocking that people
00:08:37.679 use rage bait to get people to watch
00:08:39.679 what they’re talking about.
00:08:40.880 >> Right. Right. But I guess I I guess
00:08:43.120 let’s let’s
00:08:44.240 >> what does it mean, Ken?
00:08:45.279 >> Yeah. Kind of figure out what rage it. I
00:08:47.760 I heard it described as the the evil
00:08:51.600 cousin to clickbait. So click clickbait
00:08:55.200 is is, you know, something that seems
00:08:57.360 like it’s going to be very interesting
00:08:58.880 to click on and and watch and it ends up
00:09:01.040 having nothing to do with that. So
00:09:02.240 you’re kind of tricked into doing that.
00:09:04.160 Rage bait is targeting
00:09:08.080 the the core issues that we have, our
00:09:10.640 core beliefs, our core feelings, like
00:09:12.560 anything dealing with faith or um uh the
00:09:15.920 LGBTQ community or, you know, all these
00:09:19.120 things that are really hot button
00:09:20.720 topics. And so their sole goal in
00:09:24.399 posting these things is to either have
00:09:28.080 you be so super excited about it or so
00:09:31.519 enraged by it that you fall in one of
00:09:34.240 those two categories and there’s no gray
00:09:36.480 area. There’s no in between. And so it
00:09:39.200 sparks debates like right off the bat
00:09:42.399 and it gets people really really
00:09:44.640 enraged.
00:09:45.440 >> Well, it reminds me of the next article
00:09:47.680 to mix the two.
00:09:48.880 >> Yeah. Ex Mormon gay sparkly Santa. I
00:09:52.080 mean, [laughter]
00:09:52.800 >> gay Jesus.
00:09:55.920 >> Gay sparkly Jesus, right? [laughter]
00:09:59.519 I mean, I guess gay sparkly Santa is
00:10:01.760 probably not too far off, but [laughter]
00:10:07.846 [laughter]
00:10:09.040 >> Oh my god. I’m sorry.
00:10:10.800 >> Got Santa on the brain
00:10:12.399 >> cuz [laughter] it’s Christmas.
00:10:15.760 I guess for Christians, gay sparkly
00:10:18.480 Santa would be better or would it be
00:10:20.160 worse because you’re you’re targeting
00:10:22.160 the kids.
00:10:23.120 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, the the gay sparkly
00:10:26.720 Jesus kind of checks all the boxes for
00:10:30.480 rage bait
00:10:31.279 >> and clickbait. Yeah. All of the above.
00:10:33.760 >> Yeah. It’s it’s pulling in people who
00:10:36.399 are uh seeing the the image of Jesus,
00:10:40.240 you know, consecrated. Uh, and it’s
00:10:43.440 pulling in people who are on both sides
00:10:46.000 of the the LGBTQ. And I guess this guy
00:10:49.839 who calls himself gay sparkly Jesus is
00:10:53.200 going to pride parades like that. And
00:10:55.920 his reason for doing it is uh that he is
00:11:01.040 raising awareness for people who have
00:11:03.440 gone through conversion therapy. He
00:11:05.839 calls them victims of conversion
00:11:07.360 therapy. And so that’s that’s the the
00:11:11.519 issue is people who have uh gone through
00:11:15.360 therapy through churches etc. uh to help
00:11:19.279 them sort of suppress their feelings of
00:11:23.519 I don’t know being gay or lesbian or you
00:11:27.200 know the other variations.
00:11:29.760 Well, you know, the Bible tells us, and
00:11:33.279 you know, people will debate, the Bible
00:11:34.720 tells us that a [clears throat]
00:11:36.480 relationship is between a man and a
00:11:38.079 woman, but at the same time, I do have
00:11:40.640 compassion for people that that feel
00:11:44.160 like they’re sinning. You know, also the
00:11:47.519 Bible says divorce is not something that
00:11:50.800 they recommend. And I’ve been divorced.
00:11:53.040 >> As have I. And so I know people that
00:11:56.959 struggle with Christianity and being gay
00:11:59.839 and feelings like that. So I mean I can
00:12:03.839 see where someone would say to
00:12:05.680 themselves, I I might want to examine
00:12:11.279 through Christianity or through therapy
00:12:16.079 maybe why I’m feeling gay. And then
00:12:17.600 there’s other people where they feel
00:12:19.040 that’s offensive,
00:12:20.240 >> right?
00:12:20.639 >> You know, because people will compare
00:12:24.160 having sexual relations with the same
00:12:27.120 sex as someone being promiscuous.
00:12:30.880 And from people that we know that are
00:12:33.360 Christian and feel that they’re gay,
00:12:36.320 they find that insulting because they’ll
00:12:38.639 say, "Well, then it’s not that easy. I
00:12:41.040 have felt gay since I was born." And I
00:12:45.279 feel like by demeaning it like that,
00:12:48.480 like it’s just being promiscuous,
00:12:51.440 that’s that’s taking it away from me
00:12:54.560 feeling like I want to make love to this
00:12:57.040 person who’s the same sex,
00:12:59.279 >> right?
00:12:59.760 >> And so
00:13:01.839 >> I know that I just went sideways with
00:13:03.600 that talking about the subject of, you
00:13:06.000 know, the Bible and being gay and trying
00:13:08.959 to go through that type of therapy. So,
00:13:11.680 I can see where he has a he has a place
00:13:16.160 for people that have felt that
00:13:18.959 conversion therapy have hurt them,
00:13:21.279 >> right?
00:13:23.279 I would say that it’s also clickbait
00:13:27.200 and
00:13:29.279 the way that he’s doing it is to bring
00:13:32.079 attention, but also he clearly this man
00:13:37.360 feels like he’s had he’s been triggered
00:13:41.600 and hurt by the Mormon community,
00:13:45.760 >> right? because he clearly is a gay
00:13:50.959 sparkly Jesus, which isn’t that
00:13:53.360 blasphemy, honestly.
00:13:54.720 >> Well, and that’s why it’s ragebait is
00:13:56.800 because Christians are naturally going
00:14:00.480 to be offended by that. Why would you
00:14:02.560 why would you use the image of Jesus and
00:14:05.680 at the same time people who are in that
00:14:07.839 community are are cheering it on? The
00:14:10.480 whole idea with rage bait is is uh
00:14:13.440 something that we’ve talked about
00:14:14.639 before, which is polarizing people. And
00:14:17.600 it goes on every day in the media now.
00:14:19.839 It’s the whole point of the media is to
00:14:22.320 polarize people. And you get angry, get
00:14:24.399 both sides angry at each other. And when
00:14:27.040 you’re focused on that anger and on that
00:14:29.519 subject, people are easier to
00:14:31.360 manipulate.
00:14:32.880 >> That’s basically almost every article
00:14:35.600 that you read, the top articles. Like
00:14:38.320 right now, last night TPUSA put out that
00:14:41.360 they want to do a live
00:14:43.920 um debate with Candace Owens.
00:14:47.680 And that’s really hard. I mean,
00:14:50.320 especially being in Phoenix, this is
00:14:52.079 this is a very small community. I mean,
00:14:54.480 the lady that’s coming to do my makeup
00:14:56.160 today for our law firm dinner tonight,
00:14:58.880 she did Erica Kirk’s makeup multiple
00:15:01.600 times. the guy that we’ve had on here,
00:15:04.399 Jeff, he actually got Erica Kirk her
00:15:06.880 CCW, right?
00:15:08.000 >> So, this is a very small community and
00:15:10.560 it’s hard because I think people that
00:15:13.199 know people on the inside, you don’t
00:15:14.800 want to talk about it because you also
00:15:16.639 do hear inside rumors, right?
00:15:19.600 >> And you could be cancelled in the
00:15:21.279 community. You can be cancelled in
00:15:22.720 Phoenix because it is so small. It’s
00:15:25.440 big, but it’s also small. And what’s
00:15:28.959 going on with that whole situation, and
00:15:30.720 I’ve said this multiple times, it didn’t
00:15:32.800 take Candace Owens for people to say,
00:15:35.360 "Wait a minute, something doesn’t add
00:15:37.199 up."
00:15:37.680 >> Totally.
00:15:38.959 >> It didn’t take Candace Owens. And I
00:15:40.480 think that’s what TPUSA has to
00:15:42.560 understand is it’s not Candace Owens
00:15:45.680 that’s bringing them fully to this place
00:15:48.240 that they’re at. No, she’s just laying
00:15:50.240 it out in terms that the general public
00:15:53.040 can understand because we’ve talked
00:15:54.720 about the weapon that was supposedly
00:15:56.639 used. Any gun enthusiast out there
00:15:59.839 instantly knew that couldn’t have
00:16:02.000 happened like that.
00:16:03.120 >> No, absolutely not. Multiple people
00:16:06.079 we’ve talked to. So, the second Charlie
00:16:09.519 was murdered, which we feel very bad
00:16:11.680 about and it’s it’s a very horrible
00:16:13.920 subject and it’s it’s very sad and we
00:16:16.959 are not making light of it by talking
00:16:18.480 about it at all. It’s a very serious
00:16:20.240 thing going on in our country and it’s
00:16:21.680 very polarizing.
00:16:24.399 >> Um,
00:16:26.639 what were you just saying before I said
00:16:28.480 that? I just
00:16:29.519 >> gun enthusiasts [laughter]
00:16:31.920 knew instantly. So,
00:16:33.519 >> yes. So everybody started Sunday quarter
00:16:36.880 Monday quarterbacking Monday morning
00:16:38.480 >> Monday morning quarterbacking [laughter]
00:16:40.800 the situation um and saying you know hey
00:16:44.240 this is what I wouldn’t have done this
00:16:46.320 is what happened it is clear if you were
00:16:50.160 to watch everything something is not
00:16:53.040 right something is not adding up
00:16:55.279 >> right
00:16:55.680 >> okay another thing that I’m having an
00:16:58.240 issue with and this is just maybe me
00:17:00.560 being a female what I don’t like is
00:17:03.440 Candace is a female. The head of TPUSA
00:17:06.720 is now Erica. Why does she have multiple
00:17:10.480 men coming out and attacking her? Yes,
00:17:12.640 they’re the head of TPUSA.
00:17:15.119 It’s feeling really unfair. Like we’ve
00:17:17.599 talked about, and this is just me
00:17:19.679 talking about trials. You know, you have
00:17:21.520 a trial against the hospital, but
00:17:22.880 they’ve got three sets of attorneys, and
00:17:25.119 you’re going to stand there, and it’s
00:17:26.240 going to be you, and it’s going to be 15
00:17:28.400 attorneys against Ken,
00:17:30.480 >> right? This is how I’m feeling. It’s
00:17:32.080 going down with Candace and TPUSA
00:17:35.200 and the things that are making me say,
00:17:38.000 "Hey, wait a minute. These are red
00:17:39.760 flags." Candace is calling out things
00:17:41.840 that she’s seeing, whether she’s correct
00:17:44.480 or not.
00:17:46.559 They’re using terms like she’s
00:17:49.200 anti-semitic.
00:17:50.799 She’s splitting the conservative group.
00:17:53.760 They’re they’re using big like big
00:17:58.080 accusations
00:17:59.600 like she could easily say they’re
00:18:01.440 racist. I’m black. They don’t like me
00:18:04.080 cuz I’m black. But she’s not doing that.
00:18:06.320 And
00:18:07.120 >> yeah, that’s important. That’s exactly
00:18:09.120 what we’re talking about with rage bait
00:18:11.760 and with this polarization. If you were
00:18:14.559 use words like that, the the hot
00:18:16.720 buttons, the anti-semitism, you know,
00:18:19.200 those types of things, that’s
00:18:21.760 polarizing. There’s actually a whole
00:18:23.600 science built around polarizing uh
00:18:26.640 juries in in a trial. You polarize the
00:18:30.080 jury so that way their their emotions
00:18:32.480 get so caught up in it, they’re either
00:18:34.720 all in on one side or they’re all in on
00:18:36.880 another side. And that’s the way either
00:18:39.120 side wins the case. There’s no middle of
00:18:40.960 the road anymore.
00:18:42.720 >> No. And then people and that’s why when
00:18:45.440 I sit there and I read everything
00:18:48.160 Candace is giving evidence that she’s
00:18:50.240 finding
00:18:52.320 TPUSA is coming out going she’s evil,
00:18:55.039 she’s crazy. You can’t listen to her,
00:18:57.200 >> right?
00:18:57.919 >> But why can’t you listen and make your
00:18:59.919 own determination,
00:19:01.200 >> right?
00:19:01.679 >> Why can’t you listen and not be
00:19:03.520 anti-Semitic against people that are
00:19:05.600 Jewish?
00:19:06.080 >> Yeah. I wonder if they’re not getting
00:19:08.240 advice from, you know, there even for
00:19:11.280 example jury consultants who consult
00:19:13.840 with trial lawyers about how to frame
00:19:16.480 arguments and and they will tell them
00:19:19.039 you need to use these words, you need to
00:19:21.200 use this angle, you need to hit the hot
00:19:23.520 buttons to polarize people so that way
00:19:26.080 again there’s no middle ground.
00:19:27.919 >> Well, of course, because the guy, and I
00:19:29.679 don’t know his name, I should have
00:19:31.120 looked it up. The guy that came out last
00:19:32.720 night on TPUSA, it was a 7minute video.
00:19:35.840 He was reading a letter. He was reading
00:19:39.520 something that someone wrote for him,
00:19:40.960 acting like he was he was supposed to be
00:19:43.919 emotional about this letter. And it was
00:19:45.840 clearly
00:19:47.600 so not rehearsed because he didn’t say
00:19:51.360 planned
00:19:52.160 >> and
00:19:54.720 it just you feel like saying, "Hey, you
00:19:57.039 guys can do a better job. Hey Erica, I
00:19:59.840 understand like this is absolutely
00:20:02.799 horrifying what happened and you showed
00:20:06.320 such strength with the day he died and
00:20:10.400 showing up on the tarmac and coming out
00:20:12.960 at his memorial and speaking. You had
00:20:15.280 your first speech in front of the whole
00:20:17.120 world and everybody heard you. Why
00:20:20.080 aren’t you speaking now?
00:20:21.760 >> Right?
00:20:22.240 >> We need to hear from you. We need to
00:20:24.640 hear from you. We don’t need to hear
00:20:26.559 from the other group of people. We need
00:20:29.200 to hear you speak and you you She’s been
00:20:33.360 able to do that. She’s been able to do
00:20:36.240 that. And I think that that’s not it’s
00:20:39.200 coming from a wife of if something were
00:20:42.559 to happen to you, I I would want to be
00:20:45.360 speaking about it. And so it’s no
00:20:47.840 disrespect to her because she has shown
00:20:50.640 her strength through coming up on uh
00:20:53.200 TPUSA’s podcast
00:20:56.159 couple weeks after Charlie’s passing.
00:20:59.039 And that’s where I think right now
00:21:02.720 people are feeling like we’re getting
00:21:05.039 gaslit by that side.
00:21:07.360 >> Yeah. And and your point earlier when we
00:21:09.440 were talking about this before we
00:21:10.640 started here today is, you know, people
00:21:13.440 can say, well, we’re not hearing from
00:21:15.440 her because of grief and everybody’s,
00:21:17.679 you know, she’s dealing with the loss of
00:21:19.120 her husband, etc., etc. But your point
00:21:20.799 was
00:21:22.320 she wasn’t acting that way immediately
00:21:24.880 in the aftermath. She was posting the
00:21:27.360 videos of of her, you know, giving a a
00:21:31.440 talk about it. She was posting the
00:21:33.039 videos of her, you know, with her hand
00:21:34.799 on on Charlie’s chest in the casket.
00:21:37.440 There was a lot of very public
00:21:39.760 presentation of her by herself and and
00:21:44.000 by the others around her. So to say that
00:21:47.120 she’s stricken with grief and can’t say
00:21:49.039 anything now is not consistent. And I
00:21:50.960 think that’s what you’re talking about
00:21:52.240 with the gaslighting that that we feel
00:21:54.480 is going on.
00:21:55.840 >> Absolutely. You feel like even Mark
00:21:58.400 Driscoll, Trinity, I think it’s Trinity
00:22:00.400 Church,
00:22:00.799 >> right? He came out the other day and
00:22:02.799 said it was absolutely evil. Whether
00:22:04.640 Candace is right or not, it’s absolutely
00:22:06.559 evil what she’s doing. And it’s tough.
00:22:12.080 She to me seems like someone, and I
00:22:14.960 could be completely gaslit because I
00:22:16.799 made a post about this. She’s the number
00:22:18.799 one podcast in the world,
00:22:20.400 >> right?
00:22:21.360 >> Who runs that algorithm? If they didn’t
00:22:24.159 want her number one,
00:22:26.400 >> she could.
00:22:26.799 >> Would she be number one?
00:22:27.919 >> No. Her her podcast could be tanked. I
00:22:30.159 mean,
00:22:30.400 >> if somebody manipulating the algorithm
00:22:32.720 of social media, yeah, you know, they’re
00:22:34.480 saying it’s more protected now because
00:22:36.559 of Elon Musk and X and, you know,
00:22:41.280 >> I don’t know. I’m I’m just feeling like
00:22:44.400 we’re all being played once again to
00:22:49.360 be divided,
00:22:50.400 >> right?
00:22:51.039 >> And
00:22:52.720 it all is just again, and I’m not
00:22:56.799 diminishing what happened to Charlie.
00:22:59.520 what’s going on in the aftermath is
00:23:02.080 making me feel like they’re using it
00:23:04.720 again for division both sides.
00:23:08.240 >> Sure.
00:23:08.799 >> Because think about it. if she
00:23:13.360 was saying things that whoever is
00:23:17.120 running the program, you know, and she
00:23:19.760 claims that,
00:23:21.600 and I’m not quoting perfectly, but she
00:23:23.600 claims that, you know, you can’t trust
00:23:26.159 the Zionists, but yet she is promoting a
00:23:31.679 VPN, ExpressVPN,
00:23:34.159 that is owned by the Zionists,
00:23:35.840 >> right? So, if she’s claiming you can’t
00:23:38.480 trust them, why is she earning money on
00:23:41.120 ExpressVPN
00:23:42.640 saying, "Hey, if you want yourself safe,
00:23:46.080 and I don’t know if she’s still doing
00:23:47.280 that from but from what I have
00:23:49.120 researched, she is promoting
00:23:51.280 ExpressVPN." So, she’s talking out of
00:23:53.440 both sides of of her mouth in that
00:23:55.120 instance. But then at the same time with
00:23:57.360 TPUSA,
00:23:59.200 what they’re what they’re doing in
00:24:00.960 their, you know, you’re anti-semitic.
00:24:02.799 Maybe they didn’t personally say that,
00:24:04.320 but people surrounding them have. And
00:24:06.960 you’re dividing the conservative group
00:24:09.679 and the conservative. Why are you more
00:24:11.760 concerned about that versus
00:24:13.840 >> the truth
00:24:14.320 >> the truth about Charlie?
00:24:15.440 >> Yeah. And and I guess if with what
00:24:17.760 you’re saying, if we can imagine for a
00:24:20.240 minute zooming out, I mean, zooming way
00:24:22.960 out all of us, and just being open to
00:24:24.799 the idea that there are uh other people
00:24:28.559 that are are influencing what’s going
00:24:31.279 on. and you zoom out and you see them
00:24:34.080 influencing both sides, the same group
00:24:36.159 influencing both sides, you can imagine
00:24:38.559 a world where that that’s happening
00:24:40.320 right now. We we’ve talked about it with
00:24:43.279 with news, you know, the conservative
00:24:46.080 news, the liberal news. Well, what if
00:24:48.400 they’re all being run by the same groups
00:24:51.120 and and it’s zooming way out to see it
00:24:54.000 and you can see that there’s this whole
00:24:56.080 manipulation. And again, when you talk
00:24:58.640 about polarizing people, when you talk
00:25:00.480 about
00:25:01.919 bringing up those strong emotions,
00:25:04.720 people are easier to manipulate. And it
00:25:07.360 just begs the question, could that be
00:25:08.799 going on?
00:25:09.360 >> Sure. Nobody feels like they have a
00:25:11.200 voice, both sides,
00:25:12.640 >> right?
00:25:13.039 >> You know, here you have the sparkly gay
00:25:15.760 Jesus. He didn’t feel like he had a
00:25:17.200 voice, so he had to come out and do this
00:25:20.320 major
00:25:22.000 >> position of this is what I’m doing so
00:25:24.320 people can hear what I’m having to say.
00:25:25.919 Yeah. It’s the louder, the more vulgar
00:25:28.960 gets attention. Totally.
00:25:30.799 >> The more in your face, right?
00:25:33.440 >> Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s that old axiom,
00:25:36.240 there’s no such thing as bad publicity,
00:25:38.159 but it’s really gone beyond just
00:25:40.320 publicity. It’s gone to rage bait.
00:25:43.520 >> Yeah.
00:25:44.480 >> So, did you again getting back to
00:25:48.559 Thanksgiving, day after Thanksgiving was
00:25:51.520 Black Friday. Did you hear who the
00:25:53.600 biggest generational group was?
00:25:56.080 >> Yes.
00:25:56.559 >> To hit Black Friday in the stores. Gen
00:25:59.120 X.
00:25:59.919 >> No,
00:26:00.720 >> Gen Z.
00:26:01.360 >> Gen Z.
00:26:02.000 >> I said the wrong letter.
00:26:03.200 >> Yeah,
00:26:03.520 >> I’m Gen X.
00:26:04.640 >> Yeah, which is it’s kind of funny
00:26:06.400 because Gen Xers are still skipping it.
00:26:11.039 We’ve been raised on it’s, you know, a
00:26:13.600 terrible experience.
00:26:15.679 Yeah.
00:26:16.159 >> Well, our daughter was like, and she’s
00:26:18.400 Gen.
00:26:19.120 >> I think she’s alpha.
00:26:20.400 >> Yeah, she’s something.
00:26:21.200 >> I don’t know.
00:26:21.760 >> She’s something. She’s so wonderful
00:26:23.808 [laughter]
00:26:25.279 and spicy all at the same time. But she
00:26:26.960 was very insistent on going
00:26:28.799 >> and she’s 15.
00:26:29.760 >> Yeah. Going shopping on Black Friday.
00:26:32.320 >> What she said is she said, "Mom, I want
00:26:33.679 an experience where I run in somewhere
00:26:36.080 and we’re both fighting over an item.
00:26:38.480 Would you punch a girl?" I’m like, "No."
00:26:40.183 [laughter]
00:26:42.000 I’m like, "Would you?" She’s like,
00:26:44.159 "Maybe. I don’t know. I just want to
00:26:46.400 experience that fighting like in the
00:26:48.720 movies." And I think what that is is
00:26:52.720 that generation
00:26:54.720 is so um what’s the word? They watch so
00:26:58.640 many things. They watch so many movies.
00:27:00.240 They watch so many things online. They
00:27:01.840 watch the past that they almost want to
00:27:04.799 relive what they’re watching.
00:27:06.559 >> They want to experience it themselves.
00:27:08.480 Yeah, you’re right. Because she has
00:27:10.240 watched literally every movie out there.
00:27:13.600 I mean, we we mentioned movies from our
00:27:15.919 childhood. She goes, "Oh, yeah. I’ve
00:27:17.200 watched that."
00:27:17.840 >> Yeah. Yeah. And I’m like, when did you
00:27:19.200 watch that movie? She’s seen them all.
00:27:21.600 So, yeah, they want to actually
00:27:23.360 experience all these different things
00:27:25.360 that they’ve seen in the movies. You’re
00:27:26.880 right.
00:27:27.120 >> It’s a little add cuz she constantly is
00:27:29.360 wanting to be something else, which is
00:27:30.880 fine. She wants to
00:27:32.159 >> do movies, but yeah. No, they said that
00:27:34.080 they were in um they were the top, but
00:27:37.840 yet
00:27:38.960 >> how are they making their money?
00:27:40.480 >> Well, okay. So, that’s the other side of
00:27:42.400 it. That’s that’s what’s interesting
00:27:43.919 about this this whole issue, this news
00:27:46.080 story, is they’re spending significantly
00:27:49.440 less than other generations. They’re the
00:27:52.640 ones that are there that are doing the
00:27:54.240 shopping, getting the experience, but
00:27:56.159 what they’re spending is less. Who’s
00:27:58.640 spending the most?
00:28:00.559 >> Who?
00:28:01.360 >> Gen X.
00:28:03.039 >> Well, we’re working the hardest.
00:28:04.399 >> And we’re working the hardest. We We
00:28:05.840 have the income. We are They The article
00:28:08.480 that I read said we are overspending by
00:28:10.720 whatever percentage.
00:28:11.679 >> Oh, I know. I’m overspending
00:28:13.039 unfortunately.
00:28:13.840 >> Yeah.
00:28:14.240 >> But did you see that people are actually
00:28:16.960 mad at Target?
00:28:19.760 >> So they told people to get in line
00:28:22.480 because they were going to get this grab
00:28:24.399 bag or whatever door buster bag
00:28:26.960 >> and it was garbage for the most part. It
00:28:30.080 was like you got this big silver Target
00:28:33.039 bag and then they got like Uno cards.
00:28:36.000 What? This little lipstick.
00:28:37.760 >> What?
00:28:38.320 >> Yes. They used to give away TVs and
00:28:40.640 stuff as the doorbuster.
00:28:41.840 >> Well, I I mean I think I saw one person
00:28:44.240 got like a blender, [laughter]
00:28:48.000 >> but
00:28:49.760 they definitely did. You know, don’t
00:28:53.279 announce that. Or if you’re going to
00:28:55.200 announce that,
00:28:56.640 >> literally say, "We’re going to spend
00:28:58.080 this amount of money and you have to be
00:28:59.840 the first 20."
00:29:00.799 >> Right. Make it worthwhile.
00:29:02.399 >> Yeah. Because a lot of people, we
00:29:04.080 thankfully don’t have this in Arizona,
00:29:06.240 but a lot of people are in states where
00:29:08.799 it’s really cold.
00:29:10.000 >> Yeah.
00:29:10.480 >> And they were freezing,
00:29:11.840 >> waiting around all night to get in the
00:29:13.520 store
00:29:14.080 >> for like a $10 nothing
00:29:18.320 >> and a set of Uno cards.
00:29:19.840 >> And they were probably [laughter]
00:29:21.200 Gen Z. Now they know why we don’t do
00:29:24.000 that.
00:29:24.559 >> Right. [laughter] Right.
00:29:25.840 >> Lesson learned. I shouldn’t have gone
00:29:27.919 out and done this.
00:29:29.039 >> Yeah. Yeah. our our generation avoided
00:29:32.000 at all costs. That’s why that’s why
00:29:34.240 Cyber Monday got to be so big.
00:29:36.640 >> But you know what’s stupid is they have
00:29:38.080 Cyber Monday, but they also have Cyber
00:29:39.840 Monday in the stores.
00:29:41.039 >> Yeah.
00:29:41.760 >> Which I don’t think it’s stupid because
00:29:42.960 I mean I appreciate it because if we are
00:29:45.279 at the store, we get the same deal.
00:29:46.960 >> I did notice that
00:29:49.840 there’s groups that are now promoting
00:29:52.480 Giving Tuesday, which I think is a
00:29:54.480 wonderful idea. Have you heard about
00:29:56.000 that?
00:29:56.880 >> Why? Why? G and T. I would Giving
00:29:59.760 Tuesday. They don’t rhyme.
00:30:02.080 >> No. Why?
00:30:03.120 >> Well, we’ll talk to the organizers and
00:30:04.559 see if they can come up with something
00:30:05.600 better.
00:30:06.080 >> Giving Well, there’s no day that starts
00:30:08.080 with a G.
00:30:08.720 >> Yeah. But I guess
00:30:09.679 >> Giving Wednesday,
00:30:10.559 >> I guess the reason I like it is because
00:30:14.159 Thanksgiving, we’re enjoying our family.
00:30:17.360 We’re in, you know, just gorging
00:30:18.960 ourselves with food. Uh Black Friday,
00:30:22.240 you’re going out and it’s all about the
00:30:24.399 experience of the shopping. Cyber Monday
00:30:26.960 again, it’s about the shopping. It’s a
00:30:28.640 lot of self-focus and and spending money
00:30:31.760 on yourself, your your family members,
00:30:35.120 that type of thing. And Giving Tuesday
00:30:37.600 is is more focused on charitable giving
00:30:40.480 >> versus tacos
00:30:41.840 >> versus tacos.
00:30:43.840 I don’t know, maybe there’s a taco
00:30:45.440 charity out there.
00:30:46.720 >> I love tacos. Aren’t [laughter] they so
00:30:48.399 good?
00:30:50.720 >> So, did you hear about this?
00:30:53.440 There was a study that came out saying
00:30:56.960 that the poverty line should be
00:30:59.279 increased to $140,000 where if you make
00:31:03.120 less than $140,000
00:31:05.360 you’re considered
00:31:07.440 poverty level.
00:31:09.600 >> Is that for couples or is that
00:31:11.760 individual?
00:31:13.520 >> I think that’s got to be
00:31:16.559 household total household income.
00:31:18.799 >> I believe it.
00:31:21.039 I guess it it’s currently
00:31:23.679 32,000.
00:31:27.076 [sighs]
00:31:27.520 >> Holy moly. 32,000. I mean, I think rent
00:31:31.039 in general in Arizona, you can’t really
00:31:33.039 get anything under $1,500 a month.
00:31:35.600 >> Yeah.
00:31:36.960 >> Yeah. That’s that’s crazy.
00:31:39.279 >> So, you know, if you have your rent and
00:31:41.760 then that’s that’s like almost $20,000 a
00:31:47.360 year.
00:31:48.480 >> That’s terrible. I mean, I I get that
00:31:52.960 everything’s gone up in price. Rent’s
00:31:55.600 gone up, food’s gone up, all, you know,
00:31:58.000 merchandise has gone up, and it probably
00:32:00.640 needs to be readressed. I’m a little
00:32:02.559 concerned if they were to raise it that
00:32:04.480 high. And that’s that’s not saying
00:32:05.840 that’s not anything official. That’s
00:32:07.440 >> So, what does that mean? What does it
00:32:08.720 mean if they raise it that high? What
00:32:10.159 does that mean, though? Like, what does
00:32:11.200 that cut off then?
00:32:12.000 >> Well, I think I think you’d probably be
00:32:13.840 eligible for governmental benefits, that
00:32:16.159 type of thing. And I I think I’d worry
00:32:19.039 if it were set that high. This was just
00:32:20.960 some economist who did a study and he’s
00:32:23.360 getting he or she’s getting criticized
00:32:25.039 for, you know, the math, the arithmetic
00:32:27.200 that was used that it’s not right. I can
00:32:29.679 see raising it from where it is so that
00:32:32.080 there are people because it is so hard
00:32:33.840 for people on that end of the income
00:32:36.640 spectrum to make ends meet and they do
00:32:39.279 need assistance maybe, you know, opening
00:32:41.760 that up to other people. But at $140,000
00:32:45.200 per household, that’s still a lot of
00:32:47.600 people and that’s a lot of benefits. And
00:32:49.760 the burden of that is is going to be, I
00:32:52.399 think, tremendous if that were to
00:32:54.240 happen.
00:32:54.720 >> But then does it fall on business owners
00:32:56.640 to pay more money so they’re not in that
00:32:58.960 bracket? I mean, because it gets hit. I
00:33:01.919 mean, everybody gets hit. Being business
00:33:03.840 owners, people come in and I know I have
00:33:06.720 friends that own businesses and people
00:33:08.720 come in and they expect to get paid 100
00:33:11.279 grand a year just straight out of
00:33:12.799 college because they’re like, "We can’t
00:33:14.000 afford anything."
00:33:14.960 >> Yeah.
00:33:16.399 >> That’s that’s hard on businesses though
00:33:18.480 because the businesses are trying to pay
00:33:21.200 their rent that’s gone up. They’re
00:33:23.039 trying to buy their merchandise that
00:33:24.559 they’re selling and all those prices
00:33:25.919 have gone up and literally what they’re
00:33:28.000 doing is passing that on to the
00:33:29.840 consumer. And and so if they have to pay
00:33:33.120 their staff more, they have to raise the
00:33:35.120 price of the products more. So where
00:33:37.200 does it end? It’s it’s really this cycle
00:33:39.679 that’s that’s very difficult to figure
00:33:41.840 out.
00:33:42.399 >> Well, Trump claims that he’s going to
00:33:44.399 help that with tariffs.
00:33:45.840 >> I’m still waiting.
00:33:46.720 >> Costco is suing the Trump administration
00:33:49.760 for
00:33:50.159 >> Oh, I didn’t hear about that.
00:33:51.679 >> Yeah, that’s what I saw. I saw that
00:33:53.679 they’re they’re suing Trump
00:33:55.760 >> because they get so much of their stuff
00:33:57.120 from overseas most likely,
00:33:58.640 >> probably. And it’s affecting their
00:34:01.120 bargain prices, their bulk prices.
00:34:03.440 >> So now um there’s uh lashback lashback.
00:34:08.560 Lash is that a word? I’m so
00:34:10.639 permenopausal. I embarrassed on my
00:34:13.440 brain. I have another study about the
00:34:15.199 brain. But
00:34:15.760 >> backlash
00:34:16.480 >> backlash.
00:34:18.033 [laughter]
00:34:18.639 Isn’t there a movie called Backlash?
00:34:20.800 >> I don’t.
00:34:21.440 >> No, it’s back. There’s a fire movie.
00:34:24.480 Backdraft.
00:34:25.199 >> Backdraft. [laughter]
00:34:29.440 Oh my gosh. [laughter]
00:34:32.480 Anyways, um
00:34:34.159 >> we’ll call it
00:34:34.800 >> backlash lashback
00:34:36.480 >> lashback [laughter]
00:34:38.320 backlash towards
00:34:41.599 um Costco doing that and there’s like
00:34:43.760 over 100,000 people who have canceled
00:34:45.440 their membership
00:34:47.040 >> for suing.
00:34:47.918 >> Mhm.
00:34:48.480 >> Okay. So that again,
00:34:50.159 >> go woke, go broke.
00:34:51.679 >> That ties us back to the polarization of
00:34:54.239 issues. That whole cancel culture is a
00:34:57.119 polarization thing. And so if a person
00:35:00.640 posts something online, if a corporation
00:35:02.880 makes a corporate decision like that,
00:35:05.440 then cancel culture polarizes it and
00:35:08.560 says, "You’re either canceling them,
00:35:10.079 you’re either with us, you’re against
00:35:11.520 us, ties right back into that."
00:35:14.240 >> Exactly. And I’m not canceling my Costco
00:35:16.560 membership. I enjoy going there.
00:35:19.119 >> Yeah. I I got caught up in that type of
00:35:21.680 thing for a while. several years back
00:35:25.119 when you’d hear this company is coming
00:35:27.520 out with, you know, such and such a an
00:35:30.320 advertising campaign.
00:35:31.359 >> You still won’t listen to Pink.
00:35:33.280 >> Okay, that’s different. I I I backed off
00:35:35.680 the the corporations that I’ve canled in
00:35:37.920 my mind because I’m like, "Okay, well,
00:35:40.000 maybe I was too harsh with that. I can
00:35:41.839 see where I got caught up in the
00:35:43.200 emotion." She specifically said, "If you
00:35:47.440 don’t support abortion, don’t listen to
00:35:50.240 my music." So, I see it as following her
00:35:52.000 wishes.
00:35:53.359 Yeah. Who else don’t you listen to?
00:35:56.880 >> It was
00:35:57.359 >> Oh, I backed off the other ones.
00:35:58.960 >> What were the other ones?
00:36:00.320 >> Well, it was Foo Fighters for a while
00:36:02.400 because Trump used some of his music in
00:36:04.880 one of his uh uh rallies and so they
00:36:08.000 sued him. So, that falls in line with
00:36:10.000 what you’re talking about with Costco.
00:36:11.760 So, I backed off of that position. I’m
00:36:14.079 trying not to be a part of cancel
00:36:15.680 culture.
00:36:16.800 >> Oh, very good, Ken.
00:36:18.079 >> Yeah. I don’t want to be polarized. I
00:36:20.000 don’t want to be manipulated because of
00:36:22.560 heightened emotions for hot button
00:36:24.480 topics.
00:36:25.359 >> No. And then it keeps us
00:36:28.320 unstable. Like the Bible says, you know,
00:36:31.040 if we go back to the Bible, the Bible
00:36:33.520 wants us to focus on him and peace and
00:36:37.200 >> yeah,
00:36:37.839 >> keeping
00:36:39.359 us steady in his word. And if we’re just
00:36:43.040 if it would feel like we’re on a boat
00:36:44.720 getting flopped back and forth if we’re
00:36:46.800 listening to this country.
00:36:48.320 >> Yeah. And that’s why it’s like take a
00:36:50.240 step back from the clickbait. But it’s
00:36:53.119 hard.
00:36:53.760 >> It is.
00:36:54.240 >> And the rage bait because you look at
00:36:55.760 that and you read it and you think
00:36:59.200 I’m going to do something about it. What
00:37:02.079 What are you going to do about it? I
00:37:03.440 guess we could talk about it on on our
00:37:06.079 show.
00:37:06.560 >> Yeah, we could do that. So, I I along
00:37:09.359 those lines, bringing it back to the
00:37:11.119 Bible, I was reading this devotional
00:37:13.680 that I’ve been into for for several
00:37:15.520 weeks this morning, and it was it’s all
00:37:18.160 been about David
00:37:21.119 um and how David went through his
00:37:24.320 struggles throughout his life. And the
00:37:27.680 the last
00:37:29.920 day of it was today. And it was talking
00:37:32.560 about how he was given this sort of
00:37:36.560 eulogy in in Chronicles that’s really
00:37:40.240 just a couple of sentences long that,
00:37:43.200 you know, he was a man after God’s own
00:37:45.119 heart. We all know that uh that he was a
00:37:48.160 a great king and a warrior and all that.
00:37:50.480 And it boiled David’s life, this great
00:37:52.640 king, down to these couple of sentences.
00:37:54.560 And we’ve talked about that before when
00:37:56.079 we go to cemeteries and you see
00:37:58.480 >> the headstones and and people’s entire
00:38:01.359 lives are boiled down to their name,
00:38:03.920 date of birth, date of death, and then
00:38:06.480 maybe one or two people that have one or
00:38:09.200 two memories of them years later. And
00:38:11.920 and that’s kind of what actually was
00:38:14.160 broken down to with David. But what was
00:38:16.640 important about it, bringing it back to
00:38:18.079 what you were talking about, is that
00:38:20.160 everything that David did in his life,
00:38:23.520 he pointed back to God. He went to God
00:38:26.560 for it as his strength, as you know, the
00:38:30.400 his direction. And you know, he had
00:38:33.200 great failures with uh you know, uh Ba
00:38:36.960 Sheeba, adultery with Ba Sheeba, and he
00:38:40.000 fell hard from that. He was in in caves
00:38:43.040 hiding from King Saul and and all of
00:38:46.240 that. But in the end, everything that he
00:38:49.119 did, he directed it back to God and and
00:38:53.520 gave God the credit for everything.
00:38:55.760 Helping him through his down uh
00:38:58.160 downturns, helping him through his
00:39:00.480 strength when he was, you know, fighting
00:39:02.560 Goliath, all of those things, everything
00:39:05.040 that David did. And that’s what made him
00:39:07.200 such a great king and such uh a leader
00:39:11.520 is because he was focused on God. He
00:39:14.000 wasn’t taking the glory for himself. And
00:39:17.119 what came from David being that way and
00:39:20.079 being after God’s heart is that through
00:39:23.119 his bloodline,
00:39:25.200 the greatest king ever came to be. And
00:39:27.920 that’s the king that lasts forever. And
00:39:29.440 that’s Jesus.
00:39:30.640 >> And it’s true. you I I remind everybody
00:39:34.320 and I tr I I try not to get involved
00:39:36.880 with, you know, all of these whiplash
00:39:42.480 articles and things like that because
00:39:45.119 you end up then just focusing on that
00:39:47.280 next answer.
00:39:49.359 >> Yeah.
00:39:49.680 >> Right. You’re like, you know, there’s
00:39:51.359 it’s funny, there’s this lady on TikTok
00:39:53.680 and she talks about wedding experiences.
00:39:56.560 So, she’s going to be storytelling maybe
00:39:59.440 a
00:39:59.760 >> Oh, you showed me her sometimes. Yes.
00:40:01.440 Yes.
00:40:01.760 >> And sometimes I scroll and I’ll see part
00:40:04.560 one. No, no, no, no. I just scroll past
00:40:07.520 because then I get like into it. I get
00:40:10.320 into the story and then I’m like, "Oh
00:40:12.320 man, I need to go back later and see
00:40:14.320 what happened with X, Y, and Z." And it
00:40:16.400 keeps you distracted. And it keeps you
00:40:18.640 distracted so much that you’re so
00:40:21.520 distracted. And I think you get so you
00:40:24.720 get so
00:40:26.800 um focused on finding people that hate
00:40:31.760 the same things as you.
00:40:33.280 >> Yes,
00:40:33.760 >> you end up finding people that hate the
00:40:37.440 same things as you versus finding
00:40:41.359 joy in lifting others up. What can I do?
00:40:44.079 Because if your focus like let’s say you
00:40:46.079 know our house for the last 5 years
00:40:48.880 after co we got so cluttered we just did
00:40:52.480 I don’t know what the mindset was but
00:40:55.040 after co I became semihoarderish and I
00:40:59.040 don’t know if it was the mindset of you
00:41:00.480 better not let go of anything you better
00:41:02.720 hold on to everything we moved a couple
00:41:04.560 times but my mind was so foggy and
00:41:10.000 focused that I couldn’t even organize my
00:41:12.319 own life right
00:41:13.839 >> here, like organize things. And in the
00:41:17.440 last few weeks, the Holy Spirit has
00:41:20.079 really opened my eyes and I’ve been able
00:41:22.079 to see things. So much so that I cleaned
00:41:24.240 out the pantry. I cleaned out our
00:41:25.839 drawers. But my point with all of that
00:41:28.240 is if your mind is so overwhelmed and
00:41:30.560 focused on what is heavy in this world,
00:41:35.520 you can’t see clearly daily. You can’t
00:41:39.040 be here daily seeing how you can help
00:41:41.359 other people. Being aware of the people
00:41:44.079 around you, literally being aware of
00:41:47.040 your neighbor. Oh, they need help. You
00:41:49.680 know, their garbage cans haven’t been
00:41:51.119 taken out. How can I help that person?
00:41:53.599 What can you do in a micro level to make
00:41:57.040 your day better, your family’s day
00:41:58.720 better, and the people around you
00:42:00.079 better? And yes, it’s fun listening to
00:42:01.920 all of these news articles and
00:42:04.000 everything. And we’d love to give you
00:42:06.079 our opinions on all of those, but it
00:42:08.720 when it breaks down to it with the rage
00:42:11.760 bait and polarization, it all comes back
00:42:15.440 to at the end of the day, what do you
00:42:19.119 want to spend your most time thinking
00:42:20.960 about?
00:42:21.280 >> Yeah. What do you do about it? What do
00:42:22.640 you do about it? And and I think you you
00:42:24.560 have to take a step back. You have to
00:42:28.319 focus on what’s important. Focus on on
00:42:31.280 God.
00:42:32.800 direct everything back to God and and
00:42:36.079 pray and ask God for direction with
00:42:38.880 everything and and not get caught up in
00:42:41.359 those heightened emotions, that dopamine
00:42:43.920 hit of which side are you on?
00:42:47.040 >> Oh, absolutely,
00:42:48.960 absolutely. Okay, so to wrap things up
00:42:51.200 this weekend, we were talking about the
00:42:52.720 movie called The Shack.
00:42:54.000 >> Yeah,
00:42:54.480 >> we love that movie.
00:42:56.160 >> Powerful, powerful movie. The thing is
00:42:58.480 about that movie, it’s such a great
00:43:00.400 movie about a horrible, horrible topic.
00:43:04.000 It’s emotionally draining, but in the
00:43:06.400 end, you come out on the other side just
00:43:10.160 really, really feeling
00:43:12.960 good.
00:43:13.520 >> Well, you feel inspired because it
00:43:15.200 actually shows you because we want to
00:43:16.880 blame everybody, right?
00:43:18.240 >> It’s like you want to have a blame. You
00:43:20.720 did this to me,
00:43:21.599 >> right?
00:43:22.319 >> And who’s going to suffer for it,
00:43:24.160 >> right? And it literally breaks it down
00:43:27.200 where, and I’m not going to spoil it,
00:43:29.680 but it it really does break it down on
00:43:32.160 why God sent his son to be our savior.
00:43:35.599 >> Yeah. It’s it’s
00:43:38.480 centered around
00:43:40.960 God and and
00:43:44.160 redemption, that type of thing. But it’s
00:43:47.040 not like an overly religious movie.
00:43:51.040 And and like I said, it starts off with
00:43:52.960 this really really horrible subject
00:43:54.960 matter, which I don’t want to spoil that
00:43:56.880 either. [clears throat and cough]
00:43:58.160 >> It does also line up with Christmas
00:44:00.079 time, the birth of Jesus.
00:44:01.599 >> Sure.
00:44:02.079 >> And what Jesus did for us. And so, you
00:44:05.119 know, I would love to recommend books
00:44:08.079 this this whole month of December. I
00:44:10.079 would love to recommen books or movies
00:44:12.960 or something
00:44:14.480 >> about Jesus and the birth of Jesus
00:44:17.680 Christ.
00:44:18.079 >> I I agree. I think that’s a wonderful
00:44:19.599 idea. And that’s our first
00:44:20.880 recommendation is
00:44:23.280 watch The Shack.
00:44:25.760 Have tissues handy. I have yet to watch
00:44:29.119 We’ve watched it multiple times. I have
00:44:30.800 yet to watch it without tearing up and
00:44:32.480 getting choked up. It’s really that good
00:44:33.839 a movie.
00:44:34.400 >> Yeah.
00:44:35.520 >> So, watch that. Uh I think you’ll enjoy
00:44:37.760 it.
00:44:39.040 >> And it’s not Shaq the basketball player.
00:44:41.119 >> No. [laughter]
00:44:44.400 >> All right. Have a great weekend. We’ll
00:44:45.839 see you next week.