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Minnesota Daycare FRAUD, Government Corruption, Surveillance, Digital Currency, and Deathbed Regrets


00:00:00.080 Well, happy new year, Megan.
00:00:01.520 >> Happy New Year.
00:00:02.720 >> Welcome to 2026.
00:00:04.000 >> Yes. Super excited. I wore my New Year’s
00:00:06.160 Day outfit.
00:00:07.040 >> I know. You look fantastic.
00:00:08.559 >> Yeah. Thank you. Three outfits in
00:00:10.160 because the stupid
00:00:12.240 zipper wouldn’t go on the other two.
00:00:15.280 Even though they’re not tight, it’s it’s
00:00:17.279 like, don’t you think they would know
00:00:18.880 how to make dresses by now that when you
00:00:20.800 get to the seam, a waist seam, that they
00:00:24.000 would make it better?
00:00:24.880 >> They all have that seam. Whether it’s a
00:00:27.599 ribbon or whether it’s just a seam in
00:00:29.119 the dress, they always have that seam.
00:00:30.560 And I know because I help you zip up the
00:00:32.399 dresses.
00:00:32.880 >> They’re not tight.
00:00:33.680 >> No. But you get to that one seam and you
00:00:36.480 can’t get past it.
00:00:39.120 >> Well, guess what?
00:00:40.399 >> What?
00:00:41.040 >> Welcome. Guess [laughter] what? Guess
00:00:42.800 what? Welcome to the injury report.
00:00:45.200 >> That’s right.
00:00:45.680 >> That’s our new show.
00:00:46.640 >> Formally cross-examined.
00:00:48.879 We’re going to the injury report
00:00:50.640 officially.
00:00:51.120 >> Exam examine cross I mean injuries.
00:00:55.600 >> Yeah. But not just injuries like
00:00:59.280 personal injury law, but we’re going to
00:01:01.920 examine news stories, current events in
00:01:05.519 light of how that affects us all, how it
00:01:07.920 affects our families, how it affects us
00:01:10.080 personally going throughout the day. Uh
00:01:12.479 so much more than physical injuries. If
00:01:15.360 there’s emotional, if there’s uh real
00:01:18.720 world involvement,
00:01:20.640 we’ll talk about
00:01:21.200 >> Yeah, there’s a lot there’s a lot of
00:01:22.320 injuries going on right now being in
00:01:24.159 America. Yeah. Yeah, there is.
00:01:27.040 >> Sadly, there’s that um
00:01:30.320 Cath
00:01:32.079 Catholic I know the word Catholic
00:01:34.400 podcaster,
00:01:35.680 >> right?
00:01:36.320 >> His son just passed away last night
00:01:38.159 who’s 5 years old. Micah. Yeah,
00:01:40.159 >> I was praying for him. It was so sad.
00:01:42.479 >> Yeah, you showed me that uh several
00:01:44.720 times throughout the last week and it
00:01:46.479 was really really a tough situation.
00:01:48.880 Paul Kim is his name.
00:01:51.200 >> And yeah, he’s a a content creator. I
00:01:54.640 think he has a big following on
00:01:56.000 Instagram with
00:01:58.719 Catholic uh based uh sort of faith-based
00:02:03.920 giving people hope messages like that.
00:02:06.880 And yeah, they just went through
00:02:08.000 something horrific.
00:02:09.280 >> Yeah. Well, let’s go on to talk about
00:02:12.959 some of the subjects that we’re going to
00:02:14.160 talk about today. Yeah.
00:02:15.520 >> So, one of them is the flu that was
00:02:18.720 going around.
00:02:19.760 >> Yeah. You got hit with it.
00:02:21.120 >> Well, I never got diagnosed with the
00:02:22.800 flu, but anyways, we’re going to talk
00:02:25.280 about the flu, about Minnesota and all
00:02:27.520 the corruption.
00:02:28.640 >> Yep. Yep.
00:02:30.480 >> And what people say on their deathbeds,
00:02:34.160 kind of like what are you going to do
00:02:35.680 for your New Year’s resolution and how
00:02:38.400 do those two coincide?
00:02:39.920 >> Yeah. And then there’s also the issues
00:02:42.720 that RFK was just talking about with
00:02:45.519 satellites and surveillance of of people
00:02:47.680 on Earth. We’ll get into all that as
00:02:49.200 well.
00:02:49.680 >> Yeah. But starting with New Year’s
00:02:51.760 resolutions. Yeah.
00:02:53.200 >> Do you know 80% of people by the end of
00:02:55.040 the month have given up?
00:02:56.800 >> I I’d be one of those 80% for sure.
00:02:59.472 [laughter]
00:02:59.760 >> I I a lot of times I don’t even make
00:03:01.680 them because it’s just what’s the point?
00:03:04.480 I’m not going to follow. You know, the
00:03:05.760 biggest deal that they talk about for
00:03:08.239 New Year’s resolutions
00:03:10.400 is that people go by willpower and
00:03:13.280 that’s not how you change. And it’s
00:03:15.920 interesting because years ago in my 20s,
00:03:18.560 I was a program director for Jenny
00:03:20.560 Craig. So Jenny Craig is where you come
00:03:23.280 in lose want to lose weight and you sign
00:03:25.680 up for their program. Well, one of the
00:03:28.480 biggest things that we taught or they
00:03:30.879 taught us was when they come in,
00:03:34.560 something triggered them to come in,
00:03:36.799 right? So,
00:03:37.760 >> New Year’s resolutions.
00:03:39.280 >> Well, not just New Year’s resol
00:03:40.959 resolutions. A lot of times there’s
00:03:42.879 things that are triggering them to make
00:03:44.400 people make these New Year’s
00:03:45.920 resolutions.
00:03:47.440 And so one of them is they saw
00:03:49.599 themselves in a picture and it made them
00:03:51.200 feel, you know, overweight or they
00:03:54.480 somebody said to them, "Hey, you don’t
00:03:56.319 look great." Or a pair of jeans were
00:03:57.840 tight. And if you don’t get them at that
00:03:59.920 moment to sign up, a week later, that
00:04:02.720 feeling of urgency is going to go away.
00:04:05.360 >> So it’s really emotionalbased.
00:04:07.360 >> It’s emotional based. And that’s why
00:04:09.519 it’s important that you get programs
00:04:12.239 going on in your life because you’re not
00:04:14.319 always going to feel like doing
00:04:17.600 what your goals are.
00:04:19.759 >> Well, so the the primary New Year’s
00:04:22.960 resolutions historically are what?
00:04:26.800 >> Losing weight, making saving more money,
00:04:29.840 >> right?
00:04:30.320 >> And then
00:04:32.479 dancing more.
00:04:33.680 >> I don’t think dancing.
00:04:34.560 >> Oh,
00:04:34.960 >> bettering yourself
00:04:36.639 >> by dancing more. Well, I guess that’s
00:04:38.639 one way [laughter]
00:04:39.759 >> being more positive.
00:04:41.280 >> Yeah. I thought it was interesting
00:04:43.120 though when when you were looking at
00:04:44.800 this uh that New Year’s resolutions
00:04:47.919 actually date very far back in history.
00:04:50.880 >> Yep.
00:04:51.680 >> Babylonian times is what you said.
00:04:54.000 >> And so it was
00:04:55.360 >> they were doing it for their gods at the
00:04:57.120 beginning of the year like better for
00:04:59.199 their gods,
00:05:00.880 >> right? And then that carried forward and
00:05:04.160 the Romans did it. Uh praying to the
00:05:07.680 Roman gods. Again, similar kind of
00:05:09.759 thing, trying to be better for the
00:05:12.639 coming year, do things for the gods. And
00:05:15.039 then uh how did that translate into the
00:05:18.320 Christian world?
00:05:20.160 >> I don’t remember at the moment. Do you
00:05:21.919 remember?
00:05:22.479 >> Well, I think it’s I I think it’s about
00:05:24.240 us
00:05:25.759 repenting for our sins and trying to
00:05:28.240 move forward in the coming year.
00:05:31.360 being more godlike,
00:05:32.960 >> right?
00:05:33.440 >> Chasing after God, uh, you know,
00:05:36.080 emulating Jesus and his teachings,
00:05:38.400 right?
00:05:38.800 >> And avoiding sin.
00:05:41.440 >> That sin will get you every time.
00:05:43.600 >> It will.
00:05:44.320 >> Thank God we have Jesus because he died
00:05:46.720 for all of our sins,
00:05:47.919 >> right? And the new year represents sort
00:05:52.080 of that starting over time where we can
00:05:54.320 start again. Another new year, let’s try
00:05:56.960 again. Let’s try and get it right. We’ll
00:05:59.039 sin. We’ll fall short. Everybody does,
00:06:00.880 but we can always try harder. We can
00:06:02.479 always do better.
00:06:03.199 >> Well, you know what? We can always try
00:06:04.720 harder and we can always start over
00:06:06.080 again. But that brings up that subject
00:06:08.000 of RFK because if there’s satellites
00:06:10.880 everywhere monitoring us 24/7 and then
00:06:14.000 when we were kids, there were not there
00:06:15.440 was nothing technology-wise.
00:06:18.240 >> Thankfully,
00:06:18.880 >> you’re not going to be able to get away
00:06:20.160 from yourself. So now you can start
00:06:22.960 over, but you still have reminders of,
00:06:26.000 you know, who you were, who you are.
00:06:28.479 these kids nowadays, they can’t get away
00:06:30.240 from that.
00:06:30.800 >> No. And it really it cuts both ways
00:06:32.800 because yeah, you can use it as
00:06:34.479 motivation to try and look back at your
00:06:37.440 your memories, see what you posted, see
00:06:39.280 what you’re doing, say, I don’t want to
00:06:40.479 be that person anymore. I want to do
00:06:42.319 better. Uh but at the same time, it can
00:06:44.400 always it can pull you back too.
00:06:47.280 >> And with RFK Jr. talking about that,
00:06:50.400 they said that there’s going to be
00:06:51.520 satellites all over watching what we’re
00:06:54.960 doing. And then at the same time
00:06:56.479 something with 5G telecommunications
00:07:00.479 and then our phone. Oh wait,
00:07:05.599 >> I almost said Coinbase
00:07:06.960 >> the the currency
00:07:08.000 >> currency being all digital.
00:07:10.479 >> Yeah.
00:07:10.800 >> Where they can punish you through your
00:07:12.960 currency.
00:07:13.919 >> But how do you get away from that? I
00:07:15.440 mean there I don’t think there’s any way
00:07:16.960 from get like being off the grid
00:07:18.560 anymore.
00:07:19.199 >> There’s there’s really not. I mean,
00:07:21.039 people talk about going off the grid,
00:07:22.639 but it’s just it’s not realistic in
00:07:24.479 today’s society. And and I think that’s
00:07:26.720 really kind of the the the debate where
00:07:29.599 a lot of people say, "What’s the point
00:07:32.240 in resisting?" Because I’m already on my
00:07:34.800 phone. I’m already posting on social
00:07:36.400 media. They already know where I am.
00:07:38.160 They already know everything that I’m
00:07:39.520 doing because I’m posting that I’m here,
00:07:42.000 that I’m going on vacation, that I’m out
00:07:43.919 at this restaurant, whatever. So, what’s
00:07:46.000 what’s really the point of trying to
00:07:47.440 hide?
00:07:49.440 True. Because I what what do we have to
00:07:52.000 hide for unless you’re a criminal, I
00:07:53.599 suppose.
00:07:54.319 >> Yeah. I mean, so here’s here’s where I
00:07:57.520 see the issue is
00:08:01.520 control, centralized control, and I
00:08:04.319 think this ties into that digital
00:08:06.479 currency because let’s let’s be honest,
00:08:09.919 when’s the last time you really carried
00:08:12.560 around cash? When’s the last time you
00:08:14.720 really paid for anything with cash? M
00:08:20.560 especially.
00:08:21.680 >> Yeah.
00:08:22.080 >> Change. How how many people carry
00:08:24.560 change?
00:08:25.199 >> Well, they they’ve stopped manufacturing
00:08:27.280 the penny [clears throat] now.
00:08:28.240 >> Yeah.
00:08:28.879 >> And it’s because we’re not using them.
00:08:30.960 Everybody is using digital currency
00:08:33.440 already. When you go to your bank app on
00:08:36.080 your phone, you’re not looking at actual
00:08:39.039 cash held in a bank. You’re looking at
00:08:41.360 digitized ideas of money. So the issue
00:08:45.120 for me is with the digital currency is
00:08:48.720 if it’s centralized and and right now
00:08:51.760 it’s not. You have your money in your
00:08:53.519 bank account. It’s digitized in your
00:08:55.600 bank account. Nobody controls that but
00:08:58.080 you. But with the centralized digital
00:09:01.440 currency, it would be for example,
00:09:04.320 everybody has to go through the US
00:09:06.959 Federal Reserve with your digital
00:09:08.800 currency and they have control over it.
00:09:11.440 And where that becomes a danger is they
00:09:13.120 could press a button and say, "Okay, you
00:09:15.200 violated X, Y, and Z laws or you
00:09:17.519 violated A, B, and C morals, but we’re
00:09:21.839 going to cut off your access to your
00:09:24.160 digital currency because we have that
00:09:25.600 power." And that’s where the danger is
00:09:27.440 in the centralization of it.
00:09:29.600 >> But can’t they do that now? Kind of like
00:09:31.519 if they wanted to turn off everybody’s
00:09:33.040 water, they could do that.
00:09:34.399 >> Yeah. Yeah, they definitely. It’s not
00:09:36.480 that. I mean, yes, it is scary because
00:09:40.160 it’s just one step closer to just
00:09:43.120 complete control,
00:09:44.640 >> right?
00:09:45.200 >> But it’s not like we’re free anyways,
00:09:47.360 really.
00:09:48.560 >> I I mean,
00:09:49.519 >> they could turn off our water. They
00:09:51.279 could turn off our electricity.
00:09:52.720 >> Well, they can and they do when people
00:09:54.480 don’t pay their bills. So, they you’re
00:09:56.480 right. They do have that power, but I I
00:09:59.279 think where the fear is that all of it’s
00:10:02.160 centralized in, you know, one
00:10:05.519 controlling power as opposed to, you
00:10:08.000 know, the various utilities. You know,
00:10:10.080 you can you can pay your electric bill
00:10:12.480 but not pay your water bill. They can
00:10:14.399 turn off your water and then the
00:10:15.920 electric company doesn’t know what the
00:10:17.440 water company’s doing. So, it’s not a
00:10:19.360 centralized repository of information
00:10:21.519 about you. And I think that’s really
00:10:23.200 where the fear comes about these
00:10:26.240 satellites is what data are they
00:10:28.320 collecting, who’s getting it, and what
00:10:30.399 are they going to do with it? And if
00:10:31.760 it’s all centralized in one place where
00:10:34.240 they know at one
00:10:36.959 institution knows everything about you
00:10:39.360 and can take action about it, I think
00:10:41.279 that’s really the concern.
00:10:42.880 >> But there’s so many people. So who makes
00:10:45.200 me so important?
00:10:47.440 >> Yeah.
00:10:47.920 >> I mean, what makes me so important? And
00:10:49.839 I and I and I think that’s probably the
00:10:52.000 other side of it is they’re saying,
00:10:53.519 "Look, we’re not using it for that."
00:10:56.560 >> You want to believe them or not, that’s
00:10:57.760 up to you. But we’re not using it for
00:10:59.440 that. We’re using it to watch trends and
00:11:02.880 data and and population
00:11:06.959 shifts.
00:11:08.560 >> It’s like almost like we’re like they’re
00:11:11.120 >> they’re animals that they’re watching.
00:11:12.959 >> Yeah. I mean, so let me ask you this.
00:11:17.360 What would you say to people when when
00:11:19.760 they’re hearing about that and they’re
00:11:22.800 being fearful about what may happen with
00:11:25.440 some centralized control and repository
00:11:28.560 of information? I mean, do you think
00:11:30.480 it’s something that people, you know,
00:11:32.640 the average person like us really has
00:11:35.120 anything to say about it or be concerned
00:11:36.720 about it or we just go on with our
00:11:38.079 lives?
00:11:39.200 >> Well, I think there has to be a balance.
00:11:40.800 I feel like if there’s an opportunity
00:11:42.240 for you to be able to do something about
00:11:44.160 it and to stand up and try to make new
00:11:47.600 laws, then go ahead and do that. But I
00:11:49.760 also have to know that you have to know
00:11:52.320 that God put us here at this specific
00:11:54.800 time. And so I always go back to
00:11:57.519 trusting God and him knowing, you know,
00:12:00.079 the circumstances of the world and that
00:12:02.399 I’m here during this time and this is
00:12:04.880 what I’m going to experience. So I also
00:12:06.880 have to just give it to God.
00:12:08.800 >> Yeah. I I think you’re right. And I
00:12:10.160 think, you know, honestly, you put it in
00:12:12.320 in terms of of Jesus and and his words.
00:12:15.839 You know, when asked, he said, "Give to
00:12:18.079 Caesar what is Caesars and give to God
00:12:20.079 what is God’s." And that was him
00:12:22.240 specifically saying, "Look, you’ve got
00:12:24.160 to live in this world with the powers
00:12:27.920 that be and and control what you can,
00:12:32.079 do what you can, but know that there are
00:12:34.959 other forces involved. Don’t you think?"
00:12:37.760 >> Yeah, definitely. You always have to go
00:12:39.760 back to God with all of this.
00:12:41.519 >> Yeah.
00:12:42.320 >> Because otherwise you’ll go crazy trying
00:12:43.920 to control everything. And we talk about
00:12:45.360 that control circle.
00:12:46.800 >> Sure.
00:12:47.279 >> You can only control you and your
00:12:48.959 immediate family. And then when it gets
00:12:50.480 bigger and bigger, it’s how you vote is
00:12:53.360 important. Get out there and vote. Um,
00:12:56.160 you know, but it you still only have so
00:12:58.959 much control.
00:12:59.760 >> Yeah. I And I think you’re right about
00:13:01.760 voting. and not just voting, but you
00:13:04.079 know, we’re we’re living in a different
00:13:06.000 day and age right now with social media
00:13:08.160 and people being able to uh really start
00:13:11.040 social movements about issues that the
00:13:14.639 time to do it is sooner rather than
00:13:17.920 later. Uh that that people need to start
00:13:20.800 voicing concerns and voting in people
00:13:23.600 who align with them with the protections
00:13:26.720 for us as citizens,
00:13:28.880 >> right? And that’s where it becomes
00:13:30.480 politically messy because everybody
00:13:32.240 decides, you know, hey, I’m going to be
00:13:34.399 voting for this person and it’s all or
00:13:36.240 nothing. You vote for the candidate that
00:13:38.639 best fits you. Doesn’t mean that they
00:13:40.160 fit every little thing that you want or
00:13:43.440 like, but you have to pick the biggest.
00:13:46.399 What’s the most important to you? Six
00:13:48.639 out of six. Stop it. [laughter]
00:13:53.040 >> How come I can’t yo-yo? Wait, what was
00:13:55.200 that? Slinky.
00:13:56.444 >> [laughter]
00:13:57.199 >> We were playing a game last night called
00:13:59.040 impostor. Somebody’s an imposttor and
00:14:01.199 everybody else gets a word and the word
00:14:02.560 was slinky.
00:14:03.920 >> Yeah. And that was you’re supposed to
00:14:05.199 give a clue as to the word without
00:14:06.720 actually saying it. And that was your
00:14:08.480 clue.
00:14:08.800 >> That was one of them.
00:14:09.680 >> Yeah.
00:14:09.920 >> Yeah.
00:14:10.399 >> Yeah.
00:14:11.680 >> But I’m still [clears throat] coughing
00:14:14.399 from that
00:14:15.760 >> flu.
00:14:16.320 >> The whole family had it.
00:14:17.680 >> Not you.
00:14:18.480 >> No.
00:14:20.160 >> That whole throat thing that you’re
00:14:21.600 going on TikTok and everybody’s talking
00:14:23.519 about. It’s they say it’s the biggest
00:14:26.639 flu. One of the biggest flu pandemics. A
00:14:29.360 pandemic. Is it a pandemic? No. I don’t
00:14:31.040 know. Flu.
00:14:32.160 >> I don’t know what
00:14:32.959 >> issues.
00:14:34.160 >> Yeah. You can’t I mean a pandemic I
00:14:36.720 guess the definition it it would fit if
00:14:39.199 it’s some sort of a virus that a lot of
00:14:41.600 the world is getting. But that that term
00:14:43.360 has been so overused with COVID to
00:14:46.079 signify something that’s horrific.
00:14:48.399 >> Well Well, there’s there’s kids dying
00:14:50.320 from it.
00:14:50.800 >> Well, that Micah.
00:14:52.560 >> Yeah. And then there’s another
00:14:53.680 11year-old that
00:14:55.199 >> it turned into, I think, a encphilitis
00:14:57.440 and goes to the brain, which
00:14:59.760 >> if you want to think positively, you
00:15:01.279 can’t go on TikTok or these, you know,
00:15:03.279 these social media because I’m a little
00:15:05.199 OCD and I’m a hypochondric. And then
00:15:07.440 they’re talking about, you know, hey,
00:15:09.040 you could be completely better and then
00:15:11.199 a week later just die from encphilitis.
00:15:14.399 And I’m like, okay, time to turn that
00:15:16.480 off.
00:15:17.040 >> Yeah. I love on Facebook you started a a
00:15:19.839 post and you were asking everybody who’s
00:15:22.320 with me? Let’s let’s try and be positive
00:15:24.560 from here until, you know, New Year’s
00:15:26.720 Eve. And it lasted all of like 3
00:15:30.079 minutes.
00:15:30.399 >> Well, there was stress going on at our
00:15:32.075 [laughter] day. It was like, okay, I’m
00:15:34.959 not going to be stressed out. I’m not
00:15:36.880 going to be stressed out. And then it’s
00:15:38.800 like we get a call about the nonprofit.
00:15:40.800 We get different calls about things. And
00:15:43.519 I’m like, dang it. The second I put out
00:15:46.079 there, I am not going to be stressed.
00:15:48.480 It’s almost like the devil’s like, "Oh,
00:15:51.040 yes you are. Watch this."
00:15:54.320 >> Yeah.
00:15:54.800 >> Hold my beer. [laughter]
00:15:57.759 >> Right. Well, and you know, we were we
00:16:00.800 were going to talk about this and it’s
00:16:03.199 probably a good time to get into it
00:16:04.639 because there is so much stress. there’s
00:16:07.360 so much negativity and what it makes
00:16:09.920 people do is really kind of buckle down
00:16:12.240 and, you know, think, "Oh, I’ve got to
00:16:13.759 do I’ve got to work harder here. I’ve
00:16:15.279 got to do this more." And you were
00:16:17.279 looking at some stories and and reports
00:16:21.120 of people and what the most common
00:16:23.839 things are that they say on their
00:16:26.320 deathbed.
00:16:27.199 >> Yeah. Well, a Tik Tok popped up and it
00:16:29.360 was this emergency room um doctor and he
00:16:32.639 said, "No one is like, I wish I worked
00:16:35.600 more. Everyone was basically,
00:16:39.600 "No, not now. I’m not ready. I didn’t I
00:16:43.040 didn’t get to I didn’t spend enough time
00:16:46.079 with my daughter. I didn’t spend enough
00:16:48.480 time with vacationing. I was saving up
00:16:52.000 this whole time to go on that vacation
00:16:54.720 and I never did it." And it was really
00:16:57.040 sad, he said, because people never were
00:17:01.040 saying, "I wish I made more money. I
00:17:03.199 wish I worked more. I wish I spent less
00:17:06.079 time with my family. And so
00:17:10.079 it made me reflect on our last year of,
00:17:13.679 you know, 2025.
00:17:16.319 And a lot of times, even still,
00:17:19.599 >> and it brought up a good memory from
00:17:22.319 years ago,
00:17:23.919 >> I had gotten us all-inclusive
00:17:30.000 >> tickets and a vacation to Mexico. And I
00:17:32.320 think it was like 1,500 per person for a
00:17:35.039 whole week.
00:17:35.840 >> This was years ago.
00:17:37.520 >> Well, it was 10 years ago.
00:17:39.200 >> Yeah.
00:17:39.600 >> And don’t try to sit here and defend
00:17:42.799 yourself. This was years ago when the
00:17:45.919 grass was yellow and I was trying to
00:17:49.200 like [laughter]
00:17:50.160 No, no, no, mister. It was we had young
00:17:53.360 kids. We didn’t have time to be alone at
00:17:56.080 all. And so we had a time share and they
00:18:00.160 had a special going on and it was three
00:18:02.400 grand for two people plus included
00:18:05.039 airfare to go to Mexico oceanfront suite
00:18:09.200 to stay there for a week. I got my mom
00:18:11.679 to fly out to watch the kids. Was so
00:18:14.320 excited. Paid for it. Brought it to you.
00:18:16.960 And you’re like, I’m not going. I’m
00:18:19.600 like, what? It’s an it’s a week. We get
00:18:22.559 to be alone as a couple for an entire
00:18:25.600 week. Bring your friend.
00:18:28.160 >> I was like, what? Okay, sir. So,
00:18:30.960 literally
00:18:32.880 refundable. It was non-refundable.
00:18:35.039 >> I don’t think I sounded like that. First
00:18:36.880 and foremost,
00:18:37.520 >> you were you were very angry about it.
00:18:39.280 Do you remember?
00:18:40.400 >> I I I definitely
00:18:44.080 know that it was a horrible, horrible
00:18:46.080 mistake.
00:18:47.760 >> I wish that we could go back in time and
00:18:51.440 I would change it.
00:18:53.360 >> And and you’re right, it falls right in
00:18:55.360 line with these New Year’s resolution or
00:18:58.240 the the the the deathbed sort of regrets
00:19:01.600 that people have. And I felt like
00:19:06.799 the law firm was still in its infancy. I
00:19:10.400 felt like if I took time away that we
00:19:14.160 would fail. We would fail at the law
00:19:15.919 firm. We would fail financially.
00:19:17.679 >> Fail. Fail. How though? No. Wait. What?
00:19:19.679 What? What was I trying to make
00:19:21.360 stronger?
00:19:22.240 >> Our marriage. No, you were exactly
00:19:24.000 right. And that’s that’s what I’m
00:19:25.919 saying. I’m agreeing with you and I’m
00:19:28.880 not justifying it. I’m just explaining.
00:19:31.760 Uh, and it was it was a horrible
00:19:35.280 decision and I do regret it to this day
00:19:38.559 and you should plan another week away
00:19:41.120 for us.
00:19:41.760 >> Nah, it’s already lost and gone. I’m not
00:19:44.320 doing that. Just kidding. [laughter]
00:19:46.799 But we all we also have a sign in our
00:19:49.200 room and my dad used to say this all the
00:19:51.600 time. Ships aren’t meant to be at port,
00:19:55.200 right?
00:19:55.520 >> They’re meant to be sailing,
00:19:56.880 >> right?
00:19:57.520 >> And exploring life. And so going back to
00:20:02.400 what I was talking about this last year
00:20:05.840 is we do a lot of things and it doesn’t
00:20:09.039 mean that you have to have a lot of
00:20:10.400 money. Okay? You can you can find
00:20:12.640 creative ways to be spending time with
00:20:15.120 your family to be making memories. And I
00:20:18.559 just notice a theme even with the last
00:20:21.039 podcast with Matt.
00:20:23.600 We have to make sure we make time for
00:20:26.320 things that we take for granted. Oh, we
00:20:29.120 can always go on vacation. Oh, I can
00:20:31.280 always go hang out with my husband on a
00:20:34.559 date. Oh, we can always But you can’t
00:20:36.880 always.
00:20:37.600 >> No,
00:20:38.240 >> you know, you c you never know. You can
00:20:40.000 wake up tomorrow or not wake up tomorrow
00:20:41.919 and your life is changed.
00:20:44.159 >> Yeah. You think you have all the time in
00:20:45.840 the world for it and you may not. You
00:20:47.520 don’t know what time you have.
00:20:48.720 >> Well, you definitely don’t. Nobody does,
00:20:50.880 >> right? But I would say the biggest
00:20:56.880 thing that you can do is what do you
00:21:00.640 wish your life to look like? What do you
00:21:03.440 want? Not what you don’t want. I think
00:21:05.840 if we focus all the time on what we
00:21:07.520 don’t want, then we’re putting energy
00:21:09.360 towards that. What do I want? I want my
00:21:13.280 life to look like this. If I were on my
00:21:16.320 deathbed,
00:21:18.320 I’d want to say I took the vacations. I
00:21:21.760 spent all the time. I I did everything
00:21:24.799 that I possibly could to be with the
00:21:26.880 people that I love. What about you?
00:21:30.240 >> Yeah, I I I think you’re exactly right.
00:21:32.320 I I think that
00:21:34.799 I don’t want those regrets. And that’s
00:21:38.000 one of the subjects that we were talking
00:21:39.919 about with Matt Fendon last week was
00:21:42.240 what do you say to the young guys? And
00:21:44.640 that’s I was one of those young guys
00:21:47.520 looking at what was ahead of me and what
00:21:50.159 I needed to accomplish and where I
00:21:51.840 needed to be in order to be able to have
00:21:55.280 the vacations and the time with my
00:21:57.120 family. And I felt like I had to do that
00:22:00.000 work in order to be able to get there.
00:22:02.799 And and the reality of it is the work
00:22:05.760 will always be there.
00:22:07.520 >> Well, you you’d always if there’d be
00:22:09.280 something work-wise, you’d be like, "Oh,
00:22:11.039 it’s only five grand. No big deal. We’ll
00:22:12.799 pay for And I’m like, "But this
00:22:14.159 vacation’s three. I don’t I don’t want
00:22:17.120 to spend that." It’d be like the value.
00:22:20.400 So, for you to spend money on a case,
00:22:23.520 you could easily blink an eye and be
00:22:24.880 like, "Oh, yeah. 20 grand. That’s just
00:22:26.799 nothing." And then I’d be like, "Can we
00:22:29.120 go out to dinner? It’s $200." No, I’m
00:22:31.840 not spending it.
00:22:32.799 >> Yeah. So, here’s here’s where the logic
00:22:35.039 was upside down. It was that
00:22:39.600 investing into those cases was investing
00:22:43.679 into our future for a future return of
00:22:46.799 hopefully more.
00:22:47.360 >> The future of what?
00:22:48.320 >> No. The future of the law firm. Yes.
00:22:50.400 Yes.
00:22:50.720 >> But then if you’re not going to spend
00:22:52.000 >> That’s why I said it’s upside down.
00:22:54.000 Instead of investing in the family,
00:22:56.400 investing in the relationship, investing
00:22:58.240 in our time together, which is a bigger
00:22:59.919 payoff in the end.
00:23:02.080 >> Because if you’re always going, I’m
00:23:03.280 gonna I’m gonna save more money. I’m
00:23:04.640 going to make more money. I’m gonna make
00:23:05.760 more money. I’m gonna make for what?
00:23:07.600 >> Right?
00:23:08.000 >> If you’re gonna be alone one day because
00:23:09.360 your wife’s like, I’m out of here.
00:23:12.480 You’re boring me. [laughter]
00:23:14.559 All you are is about dollars and cents.
00:23:18.480 >> Well, fortunately, uh, you stayed
00:23:21.840 around.
00:23:23.280 >> It was not easy pounding this
00:23:25.039 information into your head.
00:23:26.559 >> Well, yes, but I was receptive to it
00:23:28.559 eventually.
00:23:29.600 >> Eventually.
00:23:30.799 >> They call me the eagle and you’re the
00:23:33.039 turtle. We were in Sedona once and
00:23:34.640 they’re like, "I’m the flappy eagle
00:23:36.240 that’s like, oh, let’s go over here and
00:23:37.760 do this." And you’re the turtle where
00:23:38.880 you’re like, "But I’m comfy. I don’t
00:23:40.799 want to learn anything new." And I’m
00:23:42.559 like, "Come here, little turtle." And I
00:23:44.559 pick you up. And then we take you
00:23:46.080 somewhere and you’re kicking and
00:23:47.120 screaming and kicking and screaming. And
00:23:48.720 then we get to the new location and
00:23:50.159 you’re like, "Isn’t this a fabulous
00:23:51.919 location that I just picked out?"
00:23:53.600 >> Right. I’ll take full credit for it.
00:23:55.776 [laughter]
00:24:00.080 Now, I I I understand I am slow to
00:24:03.919 change sometimes. I’m slow to accept new
00:24:06.400 ideas. I’m slow to change directions,
00:24:10.720 but I do get there eventually.
00:24:12.559 >> You did. And I’m I’m proud of you.
00:24:14.640 >> Yeah. Thanks. Thanks.
00:24:16.240 >> You’re welcome, Sarah. I’m proud.
00:24:18.240 >> So, I I hope that I’m not one of those
00:24:22.960 people that has those regrets someday
00:24:25.360 that says, "I wish I spent more time
00:24:27.440 with my family. I wish I spent more time
00:24:30.080 with my wife. I very much am committed
00:24:33.520 to that. And and I hope that there are
00:24:36.080 people out there that hear this, that
00:24:38.640 see this, and they can make that change
00:24:41.039 as well because the work will be there.
00:24:43.679 The work’s always going to be there.
00:24:45.440 You, unless you win the lottery, you’re
00:24:47.919 going to have to go to work again. So,
00:24:50.400 just try and enjoy the family in the
00:24:52.320 meantime. Try
00:24:53.039 >> also. Also, the couch will be there, the
00:24:54.960 bed will be there. I can’t tell you with
00:24:56.559 pmenopause how tired I am. And you’re
00:24:59.039 like, "Come on, let’s go on a date." And
00:25:00.320 it’s 6 o’clock at night on a Friday. And
00:25:01.919 I’m like, "You’ve got to be kidding me.
00:25:03.600 I just took my bra off, ripped the
00:25:05.600 lashes off. I’m laying there. What? Why
00:25:08.400 do I want to go anywhere? I don’t I
00:25:10.240 don’t want to go anywhere. I just want
00:25:11.440 to lay here and be a slob." But then
00:25:13.840 it’s like, we go on the date and I’m
00:25:16.960 happy that we went on the date.
00:25:18.480 >> Well, it recharges you. It recharges
00:25:22.000 >> your energy and your commitment to each
00:25:25.039 other just to have even an hour or two
00:25:28.400 alone together.
00:25:29.760 >> Yeah.
00:25:30.960 >> And we try and get away from everything.
00:25:33.760 But bottom line is we end up on the on
00:25:36.320 the phone returning texts, that type of
00:25:39.120 thing. But at least we’re together.
00:25:41.200 >> Yeah. That’s okay, though.
00:25:42.559 >> Yeah. So, um,
00:25:44.799 >> have another drink. [laughter]
00:25:46.480 >> All right.
00:25:48.159 I have a New Year’s drink. Hey, talking
00:25:50.960 about drinks, I got a new drink, but
00:25:52.880 it’s not a new drink.
00:25:54.080 >> No, it was new. New new for us.
00:25:55.760 >> It’s new for me. It’s called an Amordo
00:25:57.520 Stone Sour.
00:25:58.559 >> It was good.
00:25:59.039 >> I think it’s an oldfashioned drink.
00:26:00.960 >> Yeah.
00:26:01.279 >> But it was delicious.
00:26:02.320 >> It was very good. Very good.
00:26:04.320 >> I think I’m That’s going to be like my
00:26:05.679 New Year’s resolution is to drink those.
00:26:08.088 [laughter]
00:26:10.720 It
00:26:10.880 >> was pretty good.
00:26:11.679 >> We We say that. And then we had Matt
00:26:14.400 Fendon on last week and we had uh you
00:26:17.200 know little drinks in front of us and it
00:26:19.039 sounds like we drink but we rarely
00:26:21.919 drink.
00:26:22.320 >> Hey, you know what? If people don’t want
00:26:24.720 to work but make money, they can just go
00:26:26.240 get one of those dayc carees in
00:26:27.520 Minnesota. [laughter]
00:26:31.039 Just just label yourself as a Somali.
00:26:33.633 [laughter] Is that
00:26:35.840 just be like, "Hey, I got a daycare in
00:26:38.159 Minnesota."
00:26:38.799 >> So this story is huge huge right now all
00:26:42.240 over. social media. What do you know
00:26:44.720 about it?
00:26:46.000 >> Okay, so I originally saw it where this
00:26:48.400 guy, he went around and he was going to
00:26:51.679 these daycarees on social media and
00:26:54.960 they’re locked and he’s like,
00:26:57.919 "Excuse me, I would like to put my child
00:27:00.960 in here for daycare." And they weren’t
00:27:03.360 answering. And it was like snow covered
00:27:06.640 it. and and and it showed on the
00:27:08.559 paperwork that they had taken in all
00:27:10.480 this money and there were supposed to be
00:27:13.200 70 plus kids or something like that at
00:27:16.799 each daycare and there was nothing.
00:27:19.840 There were there was no there were no
00:27:21.840 kids and now I hear that they claim that
00:27:24.559 they lost the paperwork to prove that
00:27:26.720 the kids were there. There’s just all
00:27:29.360 this, you know, gaslighting going on.
00:27:32.159 >> So, you’re on social media more than I
00:27:34.080 am. Obviously, I can imagine what the
00:27:36.480 reaction is. But tell me, what’s the
00:27:38.000 reaction on social media to this?
00:27:39.840 >> Oh, it’s just it’s everyone’s making a
00:27:41.679 joke about it. Like, are you kidding me?
00:27:43.840 And then who’s the who’s the governor?
00:27:46.240 >> Tim Walt.
00:27:46.960 >> Tim Waltz. And it’s just it’s this big
00:27:50.559 scam. And you know, the big joke right
00:27:52.880 now is oh yeah, that’s right. There’s
00:27:55.039 four billion the biggest billionaires is
00:27:57.520 uh Elon Musk and then they name like
00:27:59.360 three Somalia. [laughter]
00:28:03.919 So, I guess what I was uh looking at is
00:28:09.200 there there’s money given to the state
00:28:13.840 of Minnesota, every state, but in this
00:28:15.919 case, Minnesota, and there’s there’s
00:28:17.679 federal money given to daycarees to
00:28:21.279 help.
00:28:22.880 And there’s just been no oversight to
00:28:25.919 it. And and so the federal government
00:28:29.039 now is saying we have to freeze that
00:28:32.880 funding until we vet out who’s
00:28:36.399 legitimate and who’s not. So I mean what
00:28:38.880 are your thoughts about freezing the
00:28:40.320 funding?
00:28:41.039 >> Well, you know what it sucks is it sucks
00:28:43.279 that the scum always ruin it for the
00:28:47.120 good people. And we were talking about
00:28:49.120 that even with donations and the
00:28:52.720 nonprofit and different things like
00:28:54.240 that. even with food stamps or any It
00:28:58.159 seems like the people that abuse stuff
00:29:00.559 end up hurting other people that don’t
00:29:03.120 abuse stuff. So, that’s probably going
00:29:05.279 to be hard for people that need that
00:29:07.760 funding.
00:29:08.960 >> Yeah. I mean, if you think about it,
00:29:10.399 there there are legitimate daycarees out
00:29:13.360 there. There are families that are
00:29:15.679 relying on daycarees and and the funding
00:29:18.000 that they’re getting. And it’s not like
00:29:19.520 they can’t go through the steps to
00:29:21.840 probably get it unfrozen. Sure.
00:29:24.080 >> But it’s just 5% of the people ruin it
00:29:27.039 for 95%.
00:29:28.559 >> Yeah. It’s it’s a tough situation. I
00:29:30.880 mean,
00:29:32.559 >> thankfully, like we said this before as
00:29:34.799 well, thankfully we don’t have to take
00:29:36.080 our shoes off anymore to get on uh
00:29:38.080 airplanes, but
00:29:39.120 >> we don’t.
00:29:39.919 >> No, they they just changed that that
00:29:42.159 rule
00:29:42.720 >> when
00:29:43.600 >> just within the like the last couple of
00:29:45.360 months.
00:29:46.880 >> What?
00:29:47.679 >> Yeah. lies.
00:29:49.200 >> No. True.
00:29:50.240 >> Where’d you read that?
00:29:52.080 >> I [laughter] don’t know.
00:29:54.640 Saw it in an email. I don’t know.
00:29:57.919 >> Is this a girlfriend? Did she tell you?
00:30:00.640 Do you have a girlfriend? [snorts]
00:30:02.080 It’s telling you about the rules for
00:30:03.520 travel.
00:30:04.159 >> Yeah. No.
00:30:05.039 >> Well, that makes me happy. I hated
00:30:06.640 taking my shoes off, especially when I
00:30:08.640 didn’t have socks on.
00:30:09.679 >> Yeah. But the the point is that there
00:30:12.159 are few bad actors that cause problems
00:30:16.159 for the rest of us and people who are
00:30:18.799 acting legitimately.
00:30:19.840 >> Well, somebody said, and this is a
00:30:21.600 conspiracy, that
00:30:24.320 they’re bringing
00:30:26.720 refugees into Somalia
00:30:29.760 >> from Somalia. No,
00:30:31.279 >> no, to Somalia. From Gaza. They’re
00:30:34.640 taking Gaza people, bringing them to
00:30:36.720 Somalia, and something with that, and
00:30:39.919 they’re getting paid off, and then
00:30:41.760 they’re bringing them to America. I I
00:30:43.840 don’t know. I’ll have to look that up.
00:30:45.840 But somewhere I read this whole
00:30:48.320 conspiracy where Israel is bringing Gaza
00:30:52.559 refugees over to Somalia and then
00:30:56.159 there’s like this money thing going on
00:30:58.320 with I don’t know. Yeah,
00:30:59.840 >> you’ll have to get me more information.
00:31:01.120 I haven’t heard anything about that.
00:31:02.880 there was something weird, this weird
00:31:05.120 triangle thing going on.
00:31:07.279 >> Well, yeah, the the without knowing
00:31:10.159 anything about that, what we do know is
00:31:13.039 this is rampant fraud. If it’s if it’s
00:31:16.080 true and somebody is getting that money,
00:31:19.360 we don’t know who. Is it just going to
00:31:22.080 these refugees or is it being funneled
00:31:24.559 to some
00:31:25.840 >> bigger organization or other people? did
00:31:28.720 not look like
00:31:30.399 >> they had billions of dollars.
00:31:32.960 >> But you were saying that Minnesota’s had
00:31:34.559 a lot of issues with fraud.
00:31:36.640 >> Well, so this this investigation
00:31:38.866 [clears throat] into this stems from a
00:31:40.960 broader investigation of other social
00:31:45.039 programs in Minnesota that the feds have
00:31:47.600 been looking into. Uh HHS, FBI, all of
00:31:51.279 this. They’ve been looking into other
00:31:53.840 programs that have been abused with
00:31:57.039 fraud and they’re they’re investigating
00:31:59.519 them and it’s been a long-standing
00:32:00.880 thing. This is just one arm of that and
00:32:02.880 it hit social media with this with this
00:32:05.519 uh content maker with the video that he
00:32:08.159 he did. But it’s been a a bigger
00:32:10.640 investigation than what people realize
00:32:12.720 with other programs.
00:32:15.519 >> Hopefully they get to the bottom of it
00:32:16.880 and we get to find out the truth because
00:32:18.640 a lot of times we don’t. And I and I
00:32:20.399 hope that it happens sooner rather than
00:32:22.080 later. There’s there’s the legal side of
00:32:24.720 the freeze on the funding for the
00:32:28.000 daycarees as well because there’s going
00:32:30.720 to be legal challenges to it saying that
00:32:34.000 okay if I’m running a legal legitimate
00:32:38.000 child daycare and I’m getting this
00:32:40.960 funding which I’m entitled to based on
00:32:43.200 the laws that are passed and the
00:32:44.559 programs and it gets frozen because of
00:32:46.880 something that somebody else is doing.
00:32:48.720 you can’t freeze and take away my money
00:32:50.799 without due process, without giving me a
00:32:53.200 right to be heard. And so that’s really
00:32:55.360 the controversy right now is should the
00:32:57.919 federal government come in and freeze
00:33:00.240 everything across the board until they
00:33:01.919 vet out who’s right and who’s wrong or
00:33:04.720 should they let the funding go and and
00:33:06.799 figure out and pluck out the ones who
00:33:08.399 are doing it fraudulently?
00:33:09.519 >> Well, I think that’s that’s hard, too,
00:33:11.200 because they’re going to suck up the
00:33:12.320 money so quickly.
00:33:13.679 >> Yeah. Yeah. I I I think the issue comes
00:33:18.640 down to
00:33:20.480 what the government can do legally and I
00:33:23.519 think they’re going to run into some
00:33:25.120 plenty of legal challenges. I don’t know
00:33:26.880 if they’re legally going to be able to
00:33:28.880 cut that funding across the board first
00:33:31.120 and freeze it first. I think they’re
00:33:33.679 going to have to probably reverse that
00:33:36.799 position and say, "Okay, we’ll we’ll
00:33:39.279 continue the funding because there are,
00:33:41.279 like I said, legitimate families that
00:33:43.519 need the daycare, legitimate daycarees
00:33:45.519 that need the funding, and then pick out
00:33:47.919 the ones who are are fraudulent, make
00:33:49.840 them go through the process."
00:33:50.880 >> Well, it’d be amaz It’s amazing how much
00:33:53.039 we don’t even realize how the government
00:33:55.120 controls our cities. Like, we had a
00:33:57.760 friend over and he’s a fireman for one
00:34:00.640 of the cities in the area. I won’t say
00:34:02.399 which one. Right. And he was saying that
00:34:06.159 >> they’re paid more from the federal
00:34:08.639 government per homeless person that
00:34:10.639 lives in that city.
00:34:11.679 >> Yeah. So there again, that’s another
00:34:13.199 federal program to give funding to
00:34:17.280 >> So they’re not kicking out
00:34:18.639 municipalities homeless people. They’re
00:34:20.879 encouraging them to come to their city
00:34:22.800 because they get more. So you know, not
00:34:25.839 I’m not against homelessness. I I mean I
00:34:28.159 am against homelessness, but I feel bad
00:34:29.839 for those people,
00:34:30.800 >> right?
00:34:31.520 >> And at the same time, some homeless
00:34:34.480 people are reckless. They’re starting
00:34:38.560 fires. They create issues within
00:34:41.280 communities. So, it’s unfortunate that I
00:34:46.159 guess they do have to have somewhere to
00:34:47.679 go, but instead of paying the city, why
00:34:49.599 don’t they pay for programs more for
00:34:52.320 these homeless people? Sometimes you
00:34:53.760 guess you can’t get them to do programs
00:34:55.359 because they’re
00:34:56.639 >> remember father was it father Joe out in
00:34:58.800 San Diego?
00:35:00.160 >> He had like a homeless thing my dad used
00:35:01.920 to be a part of.
00:35:03.040 >> Right. No. And I think that’s what the
00:35:04.880 federal money is for. It must be tied to
00:35:09.119 programs for the homeless. And so
00:35:11.839 they’re getting more money in the cities
00:35:14.240 if they have more homeless because they
00:35:16.079 need the more money for bigger programs.
00:35:18.720 Whether they’re actually using it for
00:35:20.240 that is is anybody’s guess unless you’re
00:35:22.640 in, you know, the local government or
00:35:24.400 know those programs. I don’t know. I
00:35:25.920 haven’t looked into it.
00:35:27.040 >> No.
00:35:27.520 >> But I I think at the core the
00:35:33.520 really the the difficult thing to hear
00:35:36.000 is if they allow more homeless people in
00:35:38.560 the city, they get more money. That’s
00:35:40.400 that’s kind of hurtful and and hard to
00:35:42.880 hear.
00:35:44.480 Well, it’s also hard to hear that, you
00:35:46.400 know, Trump gave Israel 8.6 billion in
00:35:52.000 contracts for 25 fighter jets.
00:35:56.400 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:57.760 >> It’s just like we keep pouring out money
00:35:59.839 to countries that don’t need it.
00:36:03.520 >> Yeah. And you know,
00:36:05.520 >> or it’s like what where’s America first?
00:36:09.280 >> That’s exactly what I was going to say.
00:36:10.560 That was that was the platform that he
00:36:12.240 ran on and and it was always America
00:36:16.079 first, American citizens first. Let’s
00:36:18.160 make sure that we’re financially taken
00:36:20.079 care of and secure. And it’s hard to
00:36:22.720 hear that literally billions and
00:36:24.800 billions of dollars are going out of the
00:36:27.520 country
00:36:29.119 with something that may not be as as
00:36:32.720 >> well. It just seems like every other day
00:36:34.480 Netanyahu is picking a fight with
00:36:36.079 somebody. It just seems like one war is
00:36:38.400 ending and then another war is
00:36:39.839 beginning. You know, oh, I think we need
00:36:41.920 to fight Iran. And it’s like it is one
00:36:46.160 once again a discernment thing where
00:36:48.240 like I said, I have voted for Trump
00:36:49.839 multiple times. I’m icked out with how
00:36:53.119 often he hangs out with Netanyahu. And I
00:36:57.119 I don’t I don’t say that lightly, but
00:37:02.720 >> No. And you say it
00:37:03.599 >> he’s a wararm mongerer if you ask me.
00:37:05.599 You say it at the risk of of that
00:37:08.960 polarization that we always talk about
00:37:11.200 where you can’t you can’t say something
00:37:14.640 negative about certain groups, certain
00:37:17.280 people without somebody pointing the
00:37:19.599 finger at you and saying you are totally
00:37:21.520 against them. And you’re not. I mean,
00:37:23.119 >> saying I’m anti-semitic,
00:37:24.640 >> saying you’re anti-semitic, saying
00:37:26.000 you’re anti-Trump, you’re not either of
00:37:28.160 those things. No. But but for
00:37:30.960 conservatives who support Trump,
00:37:34.720 there’s a sect of people that you can’t
00:37:37.119 say something negative about Trump and
00:37:39.359 and we don’t agree with that. We agree
00:37:41.280 with more moderation and and more
00:37:44.960 discernment across the board. Don’t you
00:37:47.200 agree?
00:37:47.520 >> Well, is Trump a human being? Does he
00:37:50.320 wipe his butt and pick up his pants like
00:37:52.480 everybody else? Yes. I mean, I grew up
00:37:56.720 around mayors, you know, being in
00:37:58.560 Chicago, and I remember people saying,
00:38:00.320 "Oh, your dad’s chief of police," or,
00:38:01.920 "Oh, these people." And I’m like, I
00:38:04.240 remember, and this is so funny, I
00:38:05.920 remember being in Catholic church, and I
00:38:09.200 remember just like being younger and
00:38:12.079 thinking there was the mayor of the city
00:38:14.000 in front of me, and I remember just
00:38:16.160 thinking about what a flat butt he had.
00:38:19.076 [laughter] And I’m like, he’s got such a
00:38:21.520 flat butt. I bet his farts really like
00:38:26.079 rumble when
00:38:27.119 >> How old were you?
00:38:28.079 >> I was like seven.
00:38:29.280 >> Oh, okay.
00:38:29.839 >> Or maybe eight. I don’t know. All right.
00:38:31.200 But
00:38:31.599 >> I guess that makes more sense.
00:38:32.800 >> But you hum when you’re that young, you
00:38:35.440 humanize people. Yeah.
00:38:36.960 >> It’s not like their title, right? Like
00:38:39.599 >> No, you don’t know what titles mean.
00:38:41.359 >> You humanize them. And when you humanize
00:38:46.160 them and you see them, you know, I used
00:38:48.560 to see my dad in his Fruit of the Loom.
00:38:50.560 And yet at the same time, I’d be like
00:38:52.720 seeing people come up to me and be like,
00:38:54.400 "Oh my gosh, your dad is hu" And I’m
00:38:56.240 like, "Yeah." And I just saw him in his
00:38:57.599 Fruit of the Looms this morning.
00:38:59.031 [laughter] It’s like Netanyahu and Trump
00:39:03.119 are people,
00:39:04.640 >> right?
00:39:05.119 >> They are people that put on their
00:39:06.880 underwear, that put on their pants, that
00:39:08.800 had gas last night, that are human
00:39:11.200 beings. The only perfect person that
00:39:13.680 ever walked this earth is Jesus.
00:39:15.680 >> Right?
00:39:16.079 >> That’s it. That’s it. So I can and I
00:39:19.599 will sit there and say, you know, I like
00:39:22.480 this, I don’t like that.
00:39:24.160 >> Well, and I think tying that back into
00:39:25.760 the satellite surveilling people as
00:39:28.079 well, there there should not be total
00:39:31.680 trust in any one person, anyone
00:39:35.920 organization, anyone faction. There
00:39:39.280 should always be some level of
00:39:44.079 questionability
00:39:45.760 for them
00:39:46.079 >> because guess what? The second someone
00:39:48.640 knows,
00:39:50.000 >> oh my gosh, all this huge group loves
00:39:52.800 Trump. Don’t you think that’s an
00:39:54.480 opportunity for the snake, the devil, to
00:39:56.640 get in and be like, hey,
00:39:59.040 >> if you don’t do X, Y, and Z, I’m going
00:40:00.800 to ruin this or I’m gonna, and I’m not
00:40:02.400 saying that Trump’s not smart enough not
00:40:03.839 to see that. I’m just saying in general,
00:40:06.640 if someone has too much power, you’re
00:40:09.760 then asking for them to be corrupt or
00:40:12.640 asking them to possibly control things
00:40:16.160 that you don’t want to be controlled.
00:40:18.079 >> Yeah. Well, and that’s that’s what we
00:40:20.160 have in theory for the the framework for
00:40:24.720 our government in the United States is
00:40:26.480 everybody’s heard about the checks and
00:40:27.839 balances. We studied it in sixth grade
00:40:30.240 uh you know, social studies. There’s
00:40:32.560 checks and balances. So no one branch is
00:40:35.760 stronger than the other. That there
00:40:37.599 should be checks and balances for every
00:40:40.560 faction, every country, every ruler,
00:40:43.520 every corporation. There should be some
00:40:45.839 type of checks in place. And even if
00:40:48.160 those checks just come from our
00:40:50.800 discernment and our willingness to
00:40:54.800 question and test out what they’re
00:40:56.640 telling us, is it true? Is it for our
00:40:59.359 benefit? Can it be abused? Is it
00:41:01.520 something that we need to have guide
00:41:03.680 rails in place so that we’re protected?
00:41:06.640 Because even if they start off with the
00:41:08.560 best of intentions and say, "Okay, we’re
00:41:10.800 going to do X, Y, and Z like during, you
00:41:13.599 know, 9/11. We’re we’re going to have
00:41:16.000 all of these things that that are meant
00:41:18.240 to protect the public where the federal
00:41:21.119 government can can spy on on data usage
00:41:24.240 and things like that. At some point, it
00:41:27.040 runs the risk of running a foul."
00:41:29.599 >> Absolutely. Well, because Satan is in
00:41:31.839 control of this earth.
00:41:33.040 >> Yeah.
00:41:34.720 >> That’s who’s in control. And so,
00:41:37.359 >> he’s going to come in and try and spoil
00:41:40.160 everything
00:41:41.760 >> always
00:41:42.240 >> in humans.
00:41:44.093 [gasps]
00:41:44.640 >> So, what do we do about it?
00:41:47.280 >> I don’t know.
00:41:49.839 Talk about it.
00:41:50.880 >> Talk about it.
00:41:51.520 >> Make people aware of it.
00:41:52.960 >> Pray about it.
00:41:53.920 >> Pray about it.
00:41:57.040 >> Know that we have a God we can trust.
00:42:00.720 And that’s what something that that that
00:42:02.720 Paul Kim talking about his son Micah.
00:42:06.240 >> So horrible.
00:42:06.960 >> He said something in the video that you
00:42:08.560 showed me today where he was announcing
00:42:10.240 the the death of his son and and our you
00:42:12.400 know our hearts go out to their family
00:42:14.000 and uh you know everybody should really
00:42:16.160 lift up their family in in prayer.
00:42:17.760 There’s a lot of suffering in this world
00:42:19.359 and that’s just one that’s that’s very
00:42:21.440 notable and and present right now. But
00:42:23.599 it doesn’t mean they’re not deserving of
00:42:25.119 prayer. But what he said is that that
00:42:28.480 you can’t
00:42:30.720 help but see that God has a plan for
00:42:34.880 everything. And you can’t ever say that
00:42:38.240 that God allowing something bad to
00:42:40.640 happen doesn’t have some good that’s
00:42:43.760 going to come from it. You always have
00:42:45.280 to focus on that that we can’t know what
00:42:47.760 God’s plan is. you know, 20 people
00:42:51.119 removed or 10 years removed from right
00:42:53.680 now and what ripple effect that that
00:42:55.839 would have. And and you talk about that
00:42:57.839 God’s always ahead of us and he’s always
00:43:00.720 >> has plans for good.
00:43:02.319 >> Yeah.
00:43:03.520 >> And I agree that was very that’s very
00:43:05.599 sad. I know that the hospitals now are
00:43:07.760 requiring masks. Whether you believe
00:43:09.440 they work or not, that’s a different
00:43:11.119 story. But I don’t know. You’re you’re
00:43:14.240 thinking that like they keep talking
00:43:16.000 about the vaccine, how the flu shot
00:43:18.560 didn’t have the right strain, and you’re
00:43:21.200 like you wonder if they’re just this is
00:43:22.880 propaganda again to push the flu shot
00:43:24.960 for next year because a lot of people
00:43:26.560 didn’t get it this year or something.
00:43:28.079 >> Yeah, we’ve been very vocal starting
00:43:29.920 from
00:43:30.400 >> We’ve never had the flu shot. No, I
00:43:32.079 don’t think I’ve had the flu, but like I
00:43:34.560 got sick this time, no flu, and then I
00:43:36.640 got sick like three years ago. Like we
00:43:38.960 just we don’t we never had the COVID
00:43:41.520 shot, none of that.
00:43:42.720 >> No. No. and and you’ve been very vocal
00:43:45.359 and and we are here that we’re against
00:43:49.839 vaccines because we believe that the
00:43:52.319 body has the immunity and that people
00:43:54.160 would be stronger that you know the
00:43:56.480 population would be stronger without it.
00:43:58.800 Um and and so there’s that whole
00:44:03.119 debate and suspicion about the vaccines,
00:44:06.880 the co vaccines and things like that and
00:44:09.599 whether there’s some sinister motive
00:44:11.520 behind it all. and we have our our
00:44:13.280 opinions about it. But it makes you
00:44:15.599 wonder with this this virus going around
00:44:19.680 now being as bad as it is, is that in
00:44:24.720 the light of or in the vein of it being
00:44:27.280 some conspiratorial thing, some evil
00:44:30.000 doing, could it be another push for
00:44:32.480 people to have to get vaccines that may
00:44:35.680 have uh bad health effects in the long
00:44:38.880 run? Well, and that’s the thing that’s
00:44:40.480 crazy is we’re it’s like nowadays you
00:44:42.880 don’t feel like you can trust anyone.
00:44:45.040 >> Yeah.
00:44:45.359 >> You’re like, "What’s the scam behind
00:44:47.119 this?"
00:44:48.000 >> Yeah.
00:44:48.960 >> At least some of us. I know some people
00:44:50.560 just blindly follow like sheep.
00:44:53.440 >> Well, but that’s that’s what we’re
00:44:54.880 talking about. And and you know, it’s
00:44:56.480 fine if they want to live their life
00:44:58.160 that way. I I think our our
00:45:00.319 recommendation to them is, you know, you
00:45:02.960 got to really question,
00:45:05.440 you know, what’s going on around you.
00:45:06.800 You got to question our political
00:45:08.880 leaders. You got to question our health
00:45:10.800 leaders. You’ve got to question the
00:45:12.640 people that are closer.
00:45:13.920 >> But in balance. Not so much where you
00:45:16.079 get so crazy that’s all you’re doing is
00:45:17.920 questioning everything and it, you know,
00:45:20.000 puts you in a corner or black hole of
00:45:22.720 depression cuz you’re like, I can’t
00:45:24.160 control anything. But I think you got to
00:45:26.000 like focus on your family, but then at
00:45:28.000 the same time go, hey, I got to some
00:45:29.920 discernment. It feels like every time I
00:45:31.520 got the flu shot, I keep getting the
00:45:32.880 flu, but they’re telling me to take the
00:45:34.079 flu shot. Huh. Let me research that a
00:45:36.480 little bit. If something isn’t making
00:45:38.319 sense, if if they say 2 plus 2 equals 4
00:45:41.359 and 2 plus 2 is equaling 4,000, right?
00:45:44.960 >> It doesn’t make sense, right?
00:45:46.319 >> So, quit denying that inside that
00:45:49.760 discernment that you have.
00:45:52.079 >> Yeah. I I I love that. I I love that
00:45:54.720 sentiment and I agree with that that,
00:45:57.440 you know, there’s there’s a full
00:45:59.359 spectrum to consider here. It’s it’s are
00:46:02.240 you trusting too much or are you, you
00:46:05.119 know, too conspiratorial and and
00:46:07.599 doubting everything around you. There’s
00:46:09.599 got to be a balance with all of that.
00:46:11.440 >> Yeah, definitely. But I have a lot of
00:46:16.400 discernment. And it’s crazy because even
00:46:18.880 with a friend, I was like, I feel like
00:46:21.440 he’s distant. And then a situation
00:46:24.160 happened where we’re like, huh?
00:46:26.560 >> Well, and that’s not the first time
00:46:27.680 either. You do that over and over and
00:46:29.200 over again. you’ll you’ll get in touch
00:46:31.520 with me and you’ll say, "So and so at
00:46:33.839 the office looked at me weird. I think
00:46:35.920 they’re about to resign." And sure
00:46:38.400 enough, within within 24 hours, we
00:46:41.467 [laughter] get a resignation letter.
00:46:44.160 Like, how did you even know that?
00:46:46.400 >> Well, because I know my brain picks up
00:46:49.680 patterns.
00:46:50.400 >> Yeah.
00:46:50.880 >> Because I was gas lit a lot as a kid. So
00:46:53.599 it was kind of like I picked up patterns
00:46:55.599 of like that seems like that’s not
00:46:58.720 accurate. So when you’re gas lit a lot,
00:47:00.880 you end up picking up patterns of like
00:47:03.520 how people are acting because they don’t
00:47:05.200 ever really say what they’re doing. They
00:47:07.599 kind of like gaslight you. So then
00:47:09.760 you’re like, "Huh, this is out of the
00:47:12.079 ordinary. Something is not right. Oh,
00:47:15.760 this feels distant. Okay, it just you
00:47:18.480 can just pick these things up.
00:47:20.000 >> There’s got to be a way. There’s got to
00:47:22.960 be a way to better develop that skill
00:47:26.400 though.
00:47:27.520 >> People trusting it and and being wrong
00:47:29.760 sometimes. It’s okay if you’re like, you
00:47:31.599 know what, my discernment is this and
00:47:32.960 you’re wrong, then you learn from it.
00:47:34.800 But then sometimes you’re going to be
00:47:35.839 right and you’re going to go, ah, I can
00:47:37.760 sense I can sense when it’s stronger and
00:47:40.160 when it’s not.
00:47:41.280 >> So, have you had situations where you’ve
00:47:43.599 been like completely dead wrong about
00:47:46.160 that?
00:47:47.520 >> I don’t know right now. I’m sure I’m
00:47:50.319 sure I can be wrong a lot. I know. I say
00:47:52.800 to you all the time, you ever get tired
00:47:54.160 of being right?
00:47:56.400 >> Well,
00:47:58.800 I don’t know. It’s not that I want to be
00:48:00.800 right. It’s just I I I am always trying
00:48:05.119 to accurately predict the future for
00:48:07.280 safety reasons and for just easility.
00:48:10.319 And so when it comes to our relationship
00:48:12.880 and different things that we’re talking
00:48:14.319 about, I’m like, "No, it’s this." And
00:48:16.079 you’re like, "No, it’s that." And I’m
00:48:17.040 like, "No, it’s this." And then it’s
00:48:18.160 like, "Oh, Megan was right." Are you
00:48:20.079 sick of being right? It has nothing
00:48:21.700 [laughter] to do with being right. It’s
00:48:23.359 more just, you know, if we’re going to
00:48:26.000 if we’re on a vacation with a group of
00:48:27.920 people and it’s like, oh, they said if
00:48:30.880 you have to put luggage on the bus, meet
00:48:32.720 down at 7:00 a.m. If you don’t have to
00:48:34.480 put luggage on the bus, meet down at
00:48:36.000 7:30. And you’re like, we have to meet
00:48:37.280 at 7:00. No, we don’t. It’s 7:30. We
00:48:39.520 don’t have to bring luggage. Nope, it’s
00:48:41.119 7:00. And then we get down there and
00:48:42.880 it’s like Skyla’s like, "Why are you
00:48:44.319 guys arguing?" because stuff like that
00:48:46.573 [laughter]
00:48:47.280 I’m always paying attention and you’re
00:48:49.760 kind of like half in half out and so
00:48:52.319 it’s just so stuff like that. No, I
00:48:54.160 don’t care about being right. I just
00:48:55.920 want to be accurate.
00:48:58.079 >> No, I know. I know. It’s It’s helpful
00:49:00.960 that you’re right that often.
00:49:03.440 Frustrating sometimes, but helpful.
00:49:05.568 [laughter]
00:49:05.680 >> Well,
00:49:07.200 good. I’m glad to be helpful.
00:49:09.839 So, you got anything else you want to
00:49:11.200 touch on or should we should we move on
00:49:12.960 to our recommendation?
00:49:14.960 >> No, I think recommendation would be
00:49:16.480 great.
00:49:17.520 >> All right. So, we’ve seen this movie a
00:49:20.880 couple of times now. I just watched it
00:49:22.319 again the other night called Risen.
00:49:25.119 >> Yeah, it’s really good.
00:49:26.640 >> Yeah, great movie. So, do you want to
00:49:28.720 talk about it a little bit?
00:49:30.319 >> No, I fell asleep last time. [laughter]
00:49:32.400 It’s about this. about a soldier in in
00:49:35.839 Rome and he sees the crucifixion, but
00:49:40.720 then he goes and meets the resurrected
00:49:42.720 Jesus.
00:49:43.760 >> Yeah. So, it’s
00:49:47.599 if you know the passion of of of the
00:49:49.440 Christ movie that goes all the way up
00:49:51.760 until the resurrection and kind of I
00:49:54.319 mean, not I’m sorry, the crucifixion and
00:49:56.079 ends there. This is is not
00:50:00.000 it’s not a Mel Gibson movie. It’s not
00:50:01.599 the, you know, a sequel or anything like
00:50:03.119 that, but it’s essentially taking the
00:50:05.760 the crucifixion of Jesus from that point
00:50:08.480 forward, and it’s doing it from the
00:50:11.280 perspective of this Roman soldier. And
00:50:16.559 he’s tasked with investigating, first of
00:50:20.160 all, going to the cross and and making
00:50:23.119 sure Jesus is dead. Of course, we
00:50:25.359 already know that that he already died
00:50:27.440 without them having to intervene. But
00:50:29.680 then
00:50:31.599 three days later when Pontius Pilate
00:50:34.559 starts to get reports that people are
00:50:37.280 seeing Jesus, that the disciples are
00:50:39.119 saying he’s he’s, you know, risen, that
00:50:41.440 type of thing. He’s tasked, this Roman
00:50:44.160 soldier, this Roman soldier is tasked
00:50:46.880 with
00:50:48.720 investigating, finding out where the
00:50:51.119 body is or finding Jesus or finding out
00:50:53.520 what the disciples know and arresting
00:50:55.119 him and that type of thing. And it
00:50:56.720 follows him on this long journey. It’s
00:50:58.240 just a phenomenal story and really the
00:51:00.319 character development is great with it.
00:51:02.160 >> Yeah. Because it’s really showing you
00:51:03.920 that
00:51:06.559 >> the power of suggestion
00:51:09.599 and then the power of opening your heart
00:51:12.960 to, you know, like here he is a Roman
00:51:14.960 soldier listening to what he’s saying,
00:51:16.880 you know, do this, do that, but then not
00:51:19.280 being able to deny who Jesus is.
00:51:22.400 >> Right. Right. And I don’t I don’t think
00:51:23.760 we’re giving anything away by saying
00:51:25.920 that because we all know the story. So,
00:51:27.839 well, but I I one of the the ending
00:51:30.880 lines and and this is something that
00:51:33.760 came up in the case for Christ uh that
00:51:37.839 Lee Strobble mentioned. This Roman
00:51:40.160 soldier says at one point towards the
00:51:42.000 very end, he’s like, "How could I not
00:51:43.839 believe?"
00:51:44.400 >> Yeah.
00:51:45.119 >> And it’s just it’s just really a
00:51:46.720 powerful well put together movie. Really
00:51:49.599 enjoyable.
00:51:50.319 >> I love it.
00:51:51.040 >> Yeah. So, it’s called Risen. Check it
00:51:52.559 out. It’s on streaming services.
00:51:54.559 >> Well, happy new year. here. I hope
00:51:56.319 everyone had a great Christmas.
00:51:57.599 >> Yeah. Happy New Year everyone. We’ll see
00:51:59.280 you next time.
00:51:59.920 >> See you next time.

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